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#1 2011-03-17 13:33:13

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Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Hey again.

I've a question, because im becoming more concerned about the fairness of the game when looking at top 30 dedi records on old Nadeo tracks. I have played all of them online and see how they usually have about 5-10 results that could be removed, for they are obviously done with multiaccounts. It has become ridiculous.

Certain players try to boost their ego or something and use even 3-5 accounts to "spam" on several tracks dedis. They think very few people play TMN these days so they can do what they want and keep spamming. Well, sorry i cant accept that.

I honestly think its time to delete the obvious ones, agree? At least the ones that use exactly the same name, would be a good start. I could do the searching and give you a list of them if u like.

I love TM and I just want a fair game where players who arent so super fast have a chance to get in top 30 too, right now certain people just keep pushing them out unfairly.
Of course same problem is in TMNF-UF too but it looks much worse in TMN.

thx for reading
-noob.ee

Last edited by brainsmack (2011-03-17 13:33:34)

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#2 2011-03-17 14:52:13

n!Pad Jadis?oO
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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

That's certainly not what TM was made for. Tell Xymph, he will scan these records and delete some. However, please keep in mind that some players could raise (irrational) objections: http://dedimania.com/SITE/forum/viewtopic.php?id=258 , http://dedimania.com/SITE/forum/viewtopic.php?id=244 .

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#3 2011-03-17 15:10:12

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

As there is now way to be sure that 2 logins are used by the same player, multiaccounts records can not be removed.

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#4 2011-03-17 15:59:30

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

well as i read from another threads, it has been done before, at least in case of 3 same names on dedi, so why not.
And if some player used another's name/account for a joke or something, then its his own mistake not an excuse..

one dedi per player is fair enough

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#5 2011-04-27 13:35:15

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Im back wink
I saw that this thread didnt get much attention, but i did my research anyway.

I browsed through all the dedis (just TA mode) of TMNF and TMUF Nadeo stadium maps  and here's what I found: a couple of players who really abuse dedimania with their spamming.

1) »ЯтА«etis²
He uses 3 accounts, with logins michal93s, etis_ and etispl, but the nickname is always the same »ЯтА«etis², so its easy to see.
The spamming by him so far:

3 results on A01        BeySZdnfuSh4nHY5xztiXLmlrXe
2 results on A12        zwAbNlFSDcXjRBk0YSMyxc5kJJ8
2 results on B01        8oDWqaNMXpyFg6e_QUb07Wzpkk3
2 results on B02        b4ubJL0Aayrg7aqhe0RwI4jBQR1
3 results on B03        HIH70OwdsvC7ZX_oKOWhwqDITx2
2 results on B04        OfPhGxBSu5zHgl3GsndJGGens8k
2 results on B05        R2W9o_MsXRP2PNp46stzmMWkgHb
3 results on B08        u8RcNHvafbeKfHcNvgye0uq_jpb
3 results on C08        Hb_oIOr6Y4_I3aoMogsTPufz8hl
2 results on C09        9MOwoNkpYZhw8e99cxFI3hVZrvi
2 results on D12        DceckSvMpluYYGHaEeALei6A4tf
2 results on E02        FW0uBAWV9d_9K9Dl2ZTYMn6iJHd
2 results on StadiumB3    hm4BM_c3sqpI2qzgX2vR9acvTj4
2 results on StadiumB4    LiSj9Js5kM4erXyCy8ez6l4cQej

If that is not "repeat offender" then i dont know what is...

2) Kanaweed
Uses at least 7 logins: kanaweed, kanaweed_2, kanaweed_3, kanaweed_4, kanaweed_23, doctor_weed and  doctor_weed_3

2 results on D02        r7OqCgR3yODNwmJcPGyUafJKRAh   with logins kanaweed, kanaweed_2
2 results on D05        iDnUBYbFhfD0QIPmIyRvy1UIw_0   with logins kanaweed, kanaweed_2
2 results on D07        bRZJ7Wn3QyftteDpbnIYlrcEqp9   with logins kanaweed, kanaweed_4
7 results on D13    Nk8jftxeWaIICIOEGV8M   with logins kanaweed, kanaweed_2, kanaweed_23, doctor_weed, kanaweed_3, kanaweed_4, doctor_weed_3

(no words)

Those are the 2 biggest obvious spammers in TMNF i found.
I hope theres no mistakes with UID's but this is the situation on these maps at the moment..
Call me a nolifer if u want wink , but whats going on is shameful, and these arent random maps, but Nadeos, i hope u want to clear it.

cheers

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#6 2011-04-27 21:11:16

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

brainsmack wrote:

I saw that this thread didnt get much attention, but i did my research anyway.

As mentioned several times before in this forum, I irregularly scan for triplicate (or more) nicks and clean those recs out (leaving only the best entry). It's not feasible to scan for duplicates, this happens on way too many tracks.

brainsmack wrote:

I browsed through all the dedis (just TA mode) of TMNF and TMUF Nadeo stadium maps  and here's what I found: a couple of players who really abuse dedimania with their spamming.

1) »ЯтА«etis²
He uses 3 accounts, with logins michal93s, etis_ and etispl, but the nickname is always the same »ЯтА«etis², so its easy to see.
[...]

2) Kanaweed
Uses at least 7 logins: kanaweed, kanaweed_2, kanaweed_3, kanaweed_4, kanaweed_23, doctor_weed and  doctor_weed_3
[...]

Those are the 2 biggest obvious spammers in TMNF i found.

Cleaned those up, plus a few more I encountered along the way.

brainsmack wrote:

Call me a nolifer if u want wink

Ok, you're a no... uhm, nevermind. big_smile

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#7 2011-04-28 00:55:01

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

gg big_smile

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#8 2011-05-08 22:04:01

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Hi, sorry for dedi spamming, i just had to or it was more convenient to me to create my 2nd and 3rd account, but i didn't want to spam dedi, i even don't play nadeos now, but sometimes when i played that maps with friends only for fun {not training) i did few dedis on my new accounts. I wanted to delete it, but i didn't know how. I agree with you, that this is unfair. I don't use all 3 accounts. I use one account - etispl, another accs are inactive since i created new one. I never used more than 1 acc at the same time. So delete all my dedi recs from accounts michal93s and etis_, i don't use them anymore. Sorry and i hope you understand me a bit.
                                                                                                                          etis

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#9 2011-05-08 22:40:08

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

etispl wrote:

Hi, sorry for dedi spamming, i just had to or it was more convenient to me to create my 2nd and 3rd account, but i didn't want to spam dedi, i even don't play nadeos now, but sometimes when i played that maps with friends only for fun {not training) i did few dedis on my new accounts.

etis_ currently has 335 recs, michal93s has 156. I don't call that a "few". roll

etispl wrote:

I wanted to delete it, but i didn't know how. I agree with you, that this is unfair. I don't use all 3 accounts. I use one account - etispl, another accs are inactive since i created new one. I never used more than 1 acc at the same time. So delete all my dedi recs from accounts michal93s and etis_, i don't use them anymore.

etispl has only 78 recs, are you sure you want all the entries for the other two deleted?

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#10 2011-05-09 03:08:35

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Hey ^^

I report me self about multi account dedis (lol) - i change name to blackwolf to my all accounts

A14 Race UID: 6ktPCqLADXXuy5LaOLTzktaGlKf


TMU     czarnywilk     вιαсκшоιғ.     1     00:20.30     TAttack     2     2/2     A14-Race     Stadium     2011-05-07 22:24:31      54          
TMU     desire_pl     вιαсκшоιғ.     29     00:20.39     TAttack     2     2/2     A14-Race     Stadium     2011-04-03 18:39:23      55          
TMU     all__capone     вιαсκшоιғ.     18     00:20.37     TAttack     2     2/2     A14-Race     Stadium     2011-03-14 23:48:16      56          
TMU     1621erw61e1728e12fd78     вιαсκшоιғ.     28     00:20.39     TAttack     2     2/2     A14-Race     Stadium     2011-01-05 18:11:15      57          
TMU     carlos_sainz2     вιαсκшоιғ.     6     00:20.34     TAttack     2     2/2     A14-Race     Stadium     2010-12-19 16:11:14      58    

Now u can easy finde my  multi acc dedis on other maps .. like b06 c03 d01 a13  & others.

Theay say I try boosting me ego? ^^ thats funy ;d ... Like i say i dont do it becouse i like it i just sometimes play on other acc & if then i get dedi ... i cant delet it ^^ or export to my main acc lol. ...

Ppl cry like litell babys about multi account dedis ^^ so now U can delete it all (just leav this was higher on dedi rec) i rly dont care about other. Like i say There is nowhere information that MULTIACCOUNT is prohibited! if i see someon have more than 1 time on dedi like etis. william b, kana or any other player i just beat it all if i can & dont cry ;]

i hope some ppl now will be happy ;]

BB & HF ;d

Ps.
sorry for me EN im tired & sleepy ;d

Last edited by czarnywilk (2011-05-09 03:20:04)

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#11 2011-05-09 08:00:28

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

czarnywilk wrote:

I report me self about multi account dedis (lol) - i change name to blackwolf to my all accounts

TMU     czarnywilk
TMU     desire_pl
TMU     all__capone
TMU     1621erw61e1728e12fd78
TMU     carlos_sainz2

Now u can easy finde my multi acc dedis on other maps .. like b06 c03 d01 a13  & others.

Indeed, and thanks for that. Though you seem to have forgotten umyjokno, 2lewerece and na_warunkowym, which also have the same nickname.

Anyway, all cleaned up now, left only the highest Dedimania record for any track with duplicate entries.

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#12 2011-05-09 09:44:42

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Yes but on this last 3 acc I dont have records i think. Anyway thx.

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#13 2011-05-09 10:59:01

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Crying? No thats not what its about. I just support fair play, the basic thing in all games. Pushing players who are not so fast, out of dedis with 5 accounts is not fair play.

But its good that you reported yourself.

Oh and dont forget wolf, you still have 2 results in A05 TMX.

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#14 2011-05-09 11:16:57

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

brainsmack wrote:

Crying? No thats not what its about. I just support fair play, the basic thing in all games. Pushing players who are not so fast, out of dedis with 5 accounts is not fair play.

But its good that you reported yourself.

Oh and dont forget wolf, you still have 2 results in A05 TMX.

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … =2245#auto

BlackWolf aka CarlosSainz wrote:

Hey

i want report me self about double records on A05 TMX
0:16.29 Black Wolf + 0:00.06 9,778
0:16.29 CarlosSainz + 0:00.06 9,778
Both replayes are mine. upload was a mistake (I was drunk). I know that it is not fair so please remove the entry from carlossainz.

For a proof I sending the same message from carlossainz account

Best regards
BlackWolf

About crying  - if someon tell me (not You) that im shiet, nolife, loser, cheater becouse of this multi records .. yes i call it CRYING.

Good Bless you raydanho & saqid ;d

Cheers

EDIT//

A05 tmx removed


I forgot about

TMU     venuscircle     ήρ»vvilczek.     5     00:28.77     TAttack     2     2/2     A13-Race

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#15 2011-05-09 15:14:22

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

xymph wrote:

etispl wrote:

Hi, sorry for dedi spamming, i just had to or it was more convenient to me to create my 2nd and 3rd account, but i didn't want to spam dedi, i even don't play nadeos now, but sometimes when i played that maps with friends only for fun {not training) i did few dedis on my new accounts.

etis_ currently has 335 recs, michal93s has 156. I don't call that a "few". roll

etispl wrote:

I wanted to delete it, but i didn't know how. I agree with you, that this is unfair. I don't use all 3 accounts. I use one account - etispl, another accs are inactive since i created new one. I never used more than 1 acc at the same time. So delete all my dedi recs from accounts michal93s and etis_, i don't use them anymore.

etispl has only 78 recs, are you sure you want all the entries for the other two deleted?

Yes, 335 and 156 are not few, but i meant nadeo tracks. I played on each account about 1 year, so it's obviuos i don't have about 5, 6 records on them, but much more and most of these records or even almost all are made on short maps which i played one time.
And yes, i'm sure i want to have all my records on michal93s and etis_ deleted. As i said etispl is my one and only active account now and i won't play on other accs anymore.

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#16 2011-05-09 20:11:54

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

etispl wrote:

Yes, 335 and 156 are not few, but i meant nadeo tracks. I played on each account about 1 year, so it's obviuos i don't have about 5, 6 records on them, but much more and most of these records or even almost all are made on short maps which i played one time.

Gotcha.

etispl wrote:

And yes, i'm sure i want to have all my records on michal93s and etis_ deleted. As i said etispl is my one and only active account now and i won't play on other accs anymore.

Ok, thanks for the confirmation, done now. That creates a lot of room for players (including yourself) to gain top-30 spots.

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#17 2011-05-09 20:15:27

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

czarnywilk wrote:

I forgot about

TMU     venuscircle     ήρ»vvilczek.     5     00:28.77     TAttack     2     2/2     A13-Race

Deleted, thanks.

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#18 2011-06-30 12:21:17

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

I'm back smile

There's just a couple of more things to clear up in Nadeo dedis.

1) Tirso

A15    2 results, logins: saturno_5, tgope    dJQvN8hB18o3SXNl897MOShzZQ5
B14    2 results, saturno_5, tgope        bx9QX_lcEZ0IIGKXeYOw3lWqBXh

2) William B

He reported about some of his "extra" records in this forum earlier, but a few multiaccount times are still in dedis. These are the ones that

are his for sure:

A02    4 results, william_h_bonney, pornstar1, eightflopper, southafricaruletheworld    JwKdDsOUh4L9_eYyRsdiA2o1fW1
A09    5 results, william_h_bonney, yesitsmy2ndaccount, eightflopper, southafricaruletheworld, urbanlegend    TteOqSjrhVsdjZYAaLuGBWX2a4c
A13    3 results, william_h_bonney, urbanlegend, aomega    K27AW3HYV47qqqXentunIoUERu8
B09    4 results, william_h_bonney, urbanlegend, southafricaruletheworld, aomega    t6kPFNQiJTm3rFqjGRGHBxwZOkd

Note that aomega is the login of Drunk Accident(he already reported once about the "accident"), and also the nick name of his southafricaruletheworld login. And eightflopper is his youtube account wink http://www.youtube.com/user/eightflopper

There are a couple of more logins, but im not 100% sure about those.

Also something on A10, jH8X3qPtpn6pj3dLAaq08pyDdp1
a guy with name Please Delette this Dedi, quite clear what he wants tongue

all races in TA mode

cya wink

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#19 2011-06-30 21:06:24

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

brainsmack wrote:

I'm back

Uh-ohh. smile

brainsmack wrote:

1) Tirso

A15    2 results, logins: saturno_5, tgope    dJQvN8hB18o3SXNl897MOShzZQ5
B14    2 results, saturno_5, tgope        bx9QX_lcEZ0IIGKXeYOw3lWqBXh

And one more login: tirso_p.  Deleted all but the best time on all tracks two or more of those logins were on.

brainsmack wrote:

2) William B

He reported about some of his "extra" records in this forum earlier, but a few multiaccount times are still in dedis. These are the ones that

are his for sure:

A02    4 results, william_h_bonney, pornstar1, eightflopper, southafricaruletheworld    JwKdDsOUh4L9_eYyRsdiA2o1fW1
A09    5 results, william_h_bonney, yesitsmy2ndaccount, eightflopper, southafricaruletheworld, urbanlegend    TteOqSjrhVsdjZYAaLuGBWX2a4c
A13    3 results, william_h_bonney, urbanlegend, aomega    K27AW3HYV47qqqXentunIoUERu8
B09    4 results, william_h_bonney, urbanlegend, southafricaruletheworld, aomega    t6kPFNQiJTm3rFqjGRGHBxwZOkd

Note that aomega is the login of Drunk Accident(he already reported once about the "accident"), and also the nick name of his southafricaruletheworld login. And eightflopper is his youtube account wink http://www.youtube.com/user/eightflopper

There are a couple of more logins, but im not 100% sure about those.

Hmm, I'm not sure about urbanlegend either, it has 45 recs. But deleted are: 3 by pornstar1, 8 by southafricaruletheworld, 10 by aomega, 10 by eightflopper,  and 4 by yesitsmy2ndaccount.

brainsmack wrote:

Also something on A10, jH8X3qPtpn6pj3dLAaq08pyDdp1
a guy with name Please Delette this Dedi, quite clear what he wants tongue

Well, in that case, I'm glad to oblige. wink 18 entries from 2009 through last May deleted, mostly Nadeo and StarTrack.

Thanks again.

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#20 2011-06-30 22:06:54

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

I'm sure about urbanlegend, Xymph. You may easily notice that Will B and urbanlegend have almost the same times on maps like A02, A09, A13, B09 etc, both in online and official mode.

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#21 2011-07-17 23:37:48

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Hey

I found a spammer, this time not on Nadeos but LOL maps, I thought i'll post it here to make it quicker and save forum space tongue

For example this map Uid: R6SCGi5WhqK3saFISew4T_CF3Kk, or this: SK652iJ6bOba3k0nhovKFighKJk

the guy Extreme uses logins: guninibalitsa, prenr, www .hardtracks.com._ and extremeee_0 to spam many other LOL maps too, probably too many to even list here..

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#22 2011-07-18 22:09:48

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

brainsmack wrote:

For example this map Uid: R6SCGi5WhqK3saFISew4T_CF3Kk, or this: SK652iJ6bOba3k0nhovKFighKJk

On such idiotic tracks it's hard/impossible to prove cheating.

brainsmack wrote:

the guy Extreme uses logins: guninibalitsa, prenr, www .hardtracks.com._ and extremeee_0 to spam many other LOL maps too, probably too many to even list here..

I don't see any clearly cheated entries among their record histories.

And that's my main focus, especially now with the TM2 beta starting, so I'm not going to bother with obscure spamming situations.

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#23 2011-07-18 22:48:59

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

hey I was talking about spamming dedi with many accounts, not cheating big_smile

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#24 2012-08-24 10:17:45

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

spammer in top 3 of Nadeo's A05, time attack mode

Uid: I7rI7jAga6C4tGAe5OTDoyLF2fh

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#25 2012-12-26 20:27:09

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

Hello the player PARANOID spammed on the map G-3  UID: wjx68Fd6LvvDeWCD7k0DLrzulp6
Top 3 is obvious the same player with almost all the same login, 1 of the logins are: r1cc4rdo0 the other 2 i cant find on dedisite?:S

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#26 2012-12-26 23:26:12

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Re: Dedi "spammers" on Nadeo tracks

brainsmack wrote:

spammer in top 3 of Nadeo's A05, time attack mode

Uid: I7rI7jAga6C4tGAe5OTDoyLF2fh

Those logins/nicks aren't similar enough.

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