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#729 2015-05-20 14:47:07

Vrba
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I know But unfortunatelly the server XASECO is down, so it's pretty much useless to me. I also checked on the GRIPPES LOL server which is also under from ARCADE. No luck.

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#730 2015-05-20 18:56:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Sorry...and thanks tongue
XAsecos are now running on both servers :-D

Edit: You're talking about the dedis of "xsimonx56" or were the old ones already deleted?
If first, I'll try to convince him to upload replays.

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#731 2015-05-20 19:38:36

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

sick_castrator wrote:

Edit: You're talking about the dedis of "xsimonx56" or were the old ones already deleted?
If first, I'll try to convince him to upload replays.

Yes, and nothing was deleted from Dedimania yet. Replays are always welcome. If xsimonx56 can't explain these records, a ban is rather likely.

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#732 2015-05-22 16:44:59

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

S0sbkLm7JZrtx8DRIyye0H45sf7 Dedi 1 impossible time and a lot mre of his entries don't look possible aswell.

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#733 2015-05-22 20:02:29

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

S0sbkLm7JZrtx8DRIyye0H45sf7 Dedi 1 impossible time and a lot mre of his entries don't look possible aswell.

Just two others, but that's enough. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#734 2015-05-27 11:32:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

x1czkQBEmEIeXjL7zxOaJv1wAF1 wasn't able to find the map, but judgung by dedi times this one also isn't valid.

Of course you can UIdFinder the map wink, it's online at arcadeadmin.

vrbnjak, got a chance to check the above track as yet?

sick_castrator, it's been a week, got a hold of xsimonx56?

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#735 2015-05-27 13:50:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Sorry, no.
I'm kinda inactive and he left our clan some months/year ago, so I didn't see him the few minutes I was logged in the last week.

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#736 2015-05-27 14:19:08

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Checked and in my eyes it's somehow not doable.

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#737 2015-05-29 22:18:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

xymph wrote:

Of course you can UIdFinder the map wink, it's online at arcadeadmin.

vrbnjak, got a chance to check the above track as yet?

sick_castrator, it's been a week, got a hold of xsimonx56?

Thanks for your answers, banned and all deleted.

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#738 2015-06-09 11:37:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

6XDBf7aBK748mQ_oVD4qITJmxr0

i must admit, i saw this dedi alot of times and thought nothing of it, but i looked at the cps today.
the time itself is maybe doable, but the sector times are way out of order. i tried it a few times and i dont see how u can go so much slower between 1st and 2nd cp and then gain so much. sure, the track itself is a bit itchy with all the hills going up and down, but still. http://nations.tm-exchange.com/main.asp … p;id=50206 , maybe someone else can look at the tracK? he also has another dedi i saw on the server i play on

pckCOoqsDpHHcBKMVa1dDXrMsGc

but that one has no cp, but still hes alot faster than anyone else. http://nations.tm-exchange.com/main.asp … uto%23auto

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#739 2015-06-09 12:42:55

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

6XDBf7aBK748mQ_oVD4qITJmxr0
pckCOoqsDpHHcBKMVa1dDXrMsGc

And at least two more, so login xdutzii banned and all deleted, thanks.

yoy0 wrote:

http://nations.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx?action=auto%23auto

That's the generic URL from your address bar, which is never useful to copy/paste. wink

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#740 2015-06-14 21:40:15

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I'm off on vacation for about two weeks. Please hold on to any reports about suspect records/logins until I'm caught up after returning, at which point this topic will be re-opened.

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#741 2015-06-28 14:15:45

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hunting season has resumed. smile

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#742 2015-06-29 15:28:20

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Glad to see you back big_smile

hJoTyr5no7jAFY06wxEBq

top 2 here are cheats. (floriandussable, radovan_odjebani).

Promaster3 and Vrba's (2nd dedi) times are both invalid on tmx. (Do I have to mail the admins on tmx for this?)

I hunted it for like 2 hours to get .79 myself with a 19.3x last cp. While they have a 19.2x cp, its just not possible to get a 2x cp AND a good finish. If by whatever miracle you ever get a .2x cp you WILL crash on the next turn.

(I am ikdennisik in case you are wondering where my record is ;D)

They have been around for far too long, please remove them. ^^

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#743 2015-06-29 16:52:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

I think Vader is back big_smile
Login: adrigav
UID: jI3KNLuSUS2CafMQueD4DsbgpJ
UID: woGhmUodUxX0GxuG5x9nfGkvGz5

Thats Vader style (corsakoff_live ect ). Over 840 first dedis in 15 month ?? smile He has many suspect first and second CP-Times. And we cant see ONE replay.

check this....

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#744 2015-06-29 22:23:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

8kisara8 wrote:

Glad to see you back big_smile

hJoTyr5no7jAFY06wxEBq

top 2 here are cheats. (floriandussable, radovan_odjebani).

Promaster3 and Vrba's (2nd dedi) times are both invalid on tmx. (Do I have to mail the admins on tmx for this?)

I hunted it for like 2 hours to get .79 myself with a 19.3x last cp. While they have a 19.2x cp, its just not possible to get a 2x cp AND a good finish. If by whatever miracle you ever get a .2x cp you WILL crash on the next turn.

(I am ikdennisik in case you are wondering where my record is ;D)

They have been around for far too long, please remove them. ^^

The problem with this map is, that with TMUnlimiter you skip one invisible block and keep more speed. Try driving with TMUnlimiter and You'll see the difference.

But if this is in fact a pain in the a** to some people I don't mind my record being removed.

Regards Vrba

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#745 2015-06-29 22:28:13

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

infinity71 wrote:

Thats Vader style (corsakoff_live ect ). Over 840 first dedis in 15 month ?? smile He has many suspect first and second CP-Times. And we cant see ONE replay.

check this....

Isn't it a bit funny that you say Vader style now, when you were at a certain point defending him on the forum if I'm not mistaken? And not to mention the time you came to my server and attacked me for reporting him. wink


But oh well, back to the point. I agree this persons records aren't valid, so no arguing about that.

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#746 2015-06-30 09:25:02

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

8kisara8 wrote:

hJoTyr5no7jAFY06wxEBq

Promaster3 and Vrba's (2nd dedi) times are both invalid on tmx. (Do I have to mail the admins on tmx for this?)

They don't validate (Wrong simulation) but still play back. You can report them on TMX if you like.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

The problem with this map is, that with TMUnlimiter you skip one invisible block and keep more speed. Try driving with TMUnlimiter and You'll see the difference.

But if this is in fact a pain in the a** to some people I don't mind my record being removed.

TMUnlimiter is always a PITA, period. wink

I don't particularly see a problem in the Dedi entries, but if you don't mind deletion then... poof. smile

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#747 2015-06-30 15:28:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello,
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS login: kisbandi

It's a Hard lol, with a straight road, it is impossible even on a completely flat road to go a 0:6.81

(sry for my bad english)

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#748 2015-06-30 16:10:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

alex_mester2 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=eVfw1tuiWGw876KdtbFmDKclXc9&Show=RECORDS login: kisbandi

It's a Hard lol, with a straight road, it is impossible even on a completely flat road to go a 0:6.81

Agreed, housekeeping performed, thanks.

alex_mester2 wrote:

(sry for my bad english)

Don't write that when it's fine, there's no need.

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#749 2015-06-30 17:52:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

infinity71 wrote:

I think Vader is back

I don't. Let's not drag Vader into every report about a login who happens to have hundreds of #1s.

infinity71 wrote:

Login: adrigav
UID: jI3KNLuSUS2CafMQueD4DsbgpJ

I agree that first sector is suspect, but that alone is far from enough to condemn the login as a cheater.

infinity71 wrote:

UID: woGhmUodUxX0GxuG5x9nfGkvGz5

Can't find that track anywhere. The sector pattern doesn't look particularly strange though.

infinity71 wrote:

Thats Vader style (corsakoff_live ect ). Over 840 first dedis in 15 month ?? smile He has many suspect first and second CP-Times. And we cant see ONE replay.

All circumstatial - be specific which are suspect.

Quite a few of those #1s are on tracks that don't even have 30 entries yet, so the #1s haven't been challenged by enough other players; not many are on tracks without CPs, like Vader did; adrigav uses the multi-lap start cut whenever possible and other players don't (yet) on those same tracks; he's has been around longer than the corsakoff_live etc. bans, and drove entries on 160+ servers.

I skimmed over all his #1 sector patterns, and found few anomalies -- which could perhaps also be attributed to alternate routes or old storage glitches from other tracks.

My suspect entries:

WwjCMTw1wDI4jThJd8browcKNV0 (last sector)
b9yldDc3T6OdXxD2yCRNU_ggS4g (alt. route or glitch?)
N4HXHxnKVvk6i4tMxN31xJIzYrm (ditto)
9SbUyCqcdWDCjC24OwUi4iMtOmg (hmm, that really seems impossible)
hK2eDrA6aUv4HwfV2l5gJThzz8 (ditto)

Care to comment?

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

I agree this persons records aren't valid

Why?

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

so no arguing about that.

Wrong. wink

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#750 2015-06-30 19:36:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi
ok here 3 another maps with suspect cp times
Login : adrigav

UID: YVhWSoFM8FRC2o_YhHh7xm_qmsi
UID: A2rFGLiOKhfJPwRoJKYBeTo8Sjg    Very bad 2. Cp and unbeliveble finish time
UID: Kk_0f8nPS3SnenevXshtf4qhi7f   Suspect 2. CP and finish time.

and  1 Map without CP:
UID: XIZPYssBXJPLYMWk7Gv2a1RjVM5

check this....

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#751 2015-06-30 20:17:50

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Okay, I had opened the wrong tab and was actually looking at someone from TM2, so sorry for that.

Now that I see who this is I'm a bit confused, since I know him as being a good and fair driver. I'll check the entries you find weird and suspicious. I'll let you know.

Edit:
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=4692783 My last sector is only 0.02 slower, so this time is indeed possible.

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 61604#auto As you see in my replay, the landing was a but unsmooth and I'm sure that with a better one you keep more speed and that time is possible.

N4HXHxnKVvk6i4tMxN31xJIzYrm  The replay for this map is sent via e-mail, because I haven't made the cut, but in the replay you'll see that it's possible with some luck.

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … ;id=648106 Adrien uploaded the replay of his way.

hK2eDrA6aUv4HwfV2l5gJThzz8  Map not on TMX, so as soon as I get replay I'll email it to you.

So that's 4/5 suspicious entries explained. If you manage to find some other suspicious entries you're not sure about Xymph just say and we'll find the replays somehow.

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#752 2015-06-30 21:23:34

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

infinity71 wrote:

ok here 3 another maps with suspect cp times
Login : adrigav

UID: YVhWSoFM8FRC2o_YhHh7xm_qmsi

Doesn't look suspect to me.

infinity71 wrote:

UID: A2rFGLiOKhfJPwRoJKYBeTo8Sjg    Very bad 2. Cp and unbeliveble finish time

That track isn't anywhere tight enough to draw conclusions from.

infinity71 wrote:

UID: Kk_0f8nPS3SnenevXshtf4qhi7f   Suspect 2. CP and finish time.

There's a 18.02 entry on TMX, which is close enough.

infinity71 wrote:

and  1 Map without CP:
UID: XIZPYssBXJPLYMWk7Gv2a1RjVM5

There's a 8.20 entry on TMX, showing even better execution of the cut.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

So that's 4/5 suspicious entries explained. If you manage to find some other suspicious entries you're not sure about Xymph just say and we'll find the replays somehow.

Thanks for checking, there's no need to dig any deeper. Case closed.

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#753 2015-06-30 21:31:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

No problem, I'm glad that this helped and I hope the replay from mail convinced you.

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#754 2015-07-06 18:17:07

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

iam a TM 1 Nascar driver and i spectated "an old friend" on tm.He got banned 1-2 years ago (and got unbanned later) because of cheating  (login: antoine_bzh) . So i drove against him, i took a turn perfectly (he was behind me) and after the turn he was in front of me. Okay thats no proof of cheating but now i have it.. take a look at his 8th Dedi on this map:

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

His 4th cp time looks very strange .. maybe thats an indication of cheating .. but the real proof is this map:

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

He has dedi 1 there and he is WAY slower than the others at the last cp. In finish he suddenly is as fast as the other dedis... so how to drive 0,2 faster in the end than everybody else... its impossible... maybe a turbo cheat.. the map was hunted over long time as you can see at the dedi times. Driving the map reverse isnt possible, because his all cps would differ from the cps of the other drivers.
You can take a loook by yourself on the map: (especially the part between last cp and finish)
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 73252#auto

Also, i spectated him some time ago with a "noob" accout. He started too late and then his car accelerated like hell for the first few meters.. also while i spectated him he drove very bad (hit the wall very often and sometimes he had a strange speed up of his car). After the map he kicked me  lol...

So it looks like he is using this turbo trick not very conspicuous but the 2nd map i showed you, should be the proof of cheating.

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