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#755 2015-07-06 23:10:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

kingwexx wrote:

He got banned 1-2 years ago (and got unbanned later) because of cheating  (login: antoine_bzh) . [...] take a look at his 8th Dedi on this map:
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
His 4th cp time looks very strange .. maybe thats an indication of cheating ..

Sectors 4 and 5 are notably faster than what normal variance seems to allow, but conversely sector 6 is slower.
Similarly, on uLbncnBhYU2q5p225klNLWp93zg sectors 6 and 7 are faster but 4 is slower. I find it hard to tell whether these two constitute cheating though.

kingwexx wrote:

but the real proof is this map:
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
He has dedi 1 there and he is WAY slower than the others at the last cp. In finish he suddenly is as fast as the other dedis... so how to drive 0,2 faster in the end than everybody else... [...]

That was Dedi #5, not 1, but I agree that last sector is unusually fast.
However, among all his top 10 entries and all entries since 2015-07-01, these three tracks are the only ones I see possible anomalies on. And if that's cheating, to what purpose?  Gain a #5 or #9 entry? That makes little sense.

I've deleted the UTnzx0zllfaoFaLc_CwjcheD3N1 entry with no further consequence - for now.

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#756 2015-07-17 17:23:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

ramadl
av092dba8YlnIFGUUKZu3KcFeNm

impossible rec on this track

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#757 2015-07-17 17:39:08

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Yep, seems like a one timer, hasn't made any other records.

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#758 2015-07-18 00:04:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

ramadl
av092dba8YlnIFGUUKZu3KcFeNm

impossible rec on this track

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#759 2015-07-20 16:23:28

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello everyone,

so I wanted to report another cheater I came across a few days ago.

This was his run which caught my attention:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Login: primabera
Map: Summer V.Short - 029
As you can see here his first sector is like one tenth faster than everyone else, which is hardly possible if you try it yourself.

I was there live, when he set the time and after the "cheater, cheater" sh*tstorm in the chat went off and he left, I decided to follow him around and even managed to record a screen capture where you see his car launching vertically into the air (from a standstill aswell...) and moving around in many absurd ways.

So if you need further proof I can send you this aswell.

But anyway, since all of this happened the same night you can probably let him get away with a final warning. Just please delete his 1. dedi on Summer VS #29 because it's the one which is most annoying.

Thank you in advance! smile

Last edited by metalcoyote (2015-07-20 18:39:03)

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#760 2015-07-20 17:06:04

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Well I assume his records might be erased since all sectors are incorrect on all maps, but since it's not a repeated offense as in he didn't cheat in other days it may end in a warning. But let's let Xymph decide, he looks like a one timer to me, so wouldn't hurt him if he got banned.

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#761 2015-07-20 17:21:21

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

metalcoyote wrote:

This was his run which caught my attention:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Someone should upload a decent replay for that track to TMX. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

And vrbnjak, no need to comment on other people's reports unless you have essential info to add -- which wasn't the case the last two times. wink

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#762 2015-07-22 06:56:05

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login:roemerwallace

UID: z0HrgNxhdHZKjM4wfLuZiKUHIT2

CPs whacky and not seeing any alternative route. as i recal we had a discussion about him already, not sure though.

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

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#763 2015-07-22 20:43:37

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

boerta87 wrote:

login:roemerwallace

UID: z0HrgNxhdHZKjM4wfLuZiKUHIT2

CPs whacky and not seeing any alternative route. as i recal we had a discussion about him already, not sure though.

Yep. And I found 2 more impossible entries in the same month as the above track, plus 3 more this year. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#764 2015-07-24 11:33:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: farcry69

UID:os4X_WoADYyd9uo6zmyqoBSL4r9

10.39 cp seems a bit too "fast". checked a few other maps via dedimaniastats and it seems like he often gains time  between last cp and finish eventhough his cps before are worse than the other top 5 driver. I didnt check the other maps by driving though, thats why i only mentioned os4X_WoADYyd9uo6zmyqoBSL4r9 for now.


greetz

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#765 2015-07-24 16:54:38

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

boerta87 wrote:

login: farcry69
UID:os4X_WoADYyd9uo6zmyqoBSL4r9

10.39 cp seems a bit too "fast". checked a few other maps via dedimaniastats and it seems like he often gains time  between last cp and finish eventhough his cps before are worse than the other top 5 driver. I didnt check the other maps by driving though, thats why i only mentioned os4X_WoADYyd9uo6zmyqoBSL4r9 for now.

Yeah, found another 10 tracks where the last or an intermediate sector is impossible. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#766 2015-07-25 20:45:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

LbUxizbaBwcKhF7QOAJLazFkUjg
1l1l1l1l1l1l1l

cant go that fast on that track, sure it has just 1 cp but if u played it u know that

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#767 2015-07-25 23:24:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

LbUxizbaBwcKhF7QOAJLazFkUjg
1l1l1l1l1l1l1l

cant go that fast on that track, sure it has just 1 cp but if u played it u know that

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#768 2015-08-05 14:52:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: _000_wbabu_f0f.

im so sorry but I have only this image: http://dl.dropbox.com/s/e7elmlwusuyiowf/Cattura.PNG

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#769 2015-08-05 19:45:02

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

andreaseppi_virgilio.it wrote:

login: _000_wbabu_f0f.

That happened earlier this afternoon. Please re-read the reporting rules in the first post, especially 1a.

Banned and all deleted, thanks anyway.

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#770 2015-08-15 02:21:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

hi, the 1st dedi of this map http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 68025#auto (Nocturnal by Dynamic) is clearly a hack. login of player: devilbolt ; his time is 39.78 and mine 40.71, my first cp is 13.46 and his first cp is 11.73... please remove him, it's not his first hacked dedi. thanks !

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#771 2015-08-15 10:28:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lulu77t800 wrote:

the 1st dedi of this map http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 68025#auto (Nocturnal by Dynamic) is clearly a hack. login of player: devilbolt

Yep, housekeeping performed.

lulu77t800 wrote:

it's not his first hacked dedi.

Broad-sweeping accusations are against the reporting rules. Be specific: which other track(s)?

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#772 2015-08-17 21:27:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi, i would like to report this 1st dedi :

login : olaflol
Uid:  8mYVvsNgAcC9asdU4am_VyZTKs6
TMX Link : http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 40162#auto

There is no way to go so fast on that track.

Thanks

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#773 2015-08-17 23:02:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

artenese91 wrote:

Hi, i would like to report this 1st dedi :

login : olaflol
Uid:  8mYVvsNgAcC9asdU4am_VyZTKs6
TMX Link : http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 40162#auto

There is no way to go so fast on that track.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#774 2015-08-18 14:20:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: direito22
UID: XYgRJmtic3Fw3rrT2QN0UxLECYh
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Login: simba_56520
UID: xvzLovPByrBoHE_nBJYMuJrFP47
_________________________________

Login: pker190, gaszton2
UID: bQgvjZVsMQQ59MAGuofeZqo2CZa

I believe the 6 second times here aren't really possible as you're not even close to finish at that time. Even with a landing in the bug finish area I don't think that's doable.
I've sent you my replay on e-mail, as I had a fast end and reasonably good star, which is not THAT improvable in my opinion. But I'll let you decide about these 2.

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#775 2015-08-18 15:58:41

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: direito22
UID: XYgRJmtic3Fw3rrT2QN0UxLECYh

And several other tracks too. Banned and all deleted.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: simba_56520
UID: xvzLovPByrBoHE_nBJYMuJrFP47

Hmm, could be a very lucky fluke, but for other reasons I think it's more likely a cheated entry. Housekeeping done.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: pker190, gaszton2
UID: bQgvjZVsMQQ59MAGuofeZqo2CZa

I believe the 6 second times here aren't really possible as you're not even close to finish at that time. Even with a landing in the bug finish area I don't think that's doable.
I've sent you my replay on e-mail, as I had a fast end and reasonably good star[t], which is not THAT improvable in my opinion. But I'll let you decide about these 2.

You listed the Rounds logins #1 and 2, which are around 9 seconds. wink Also, there's a faster 7.36 replay on TMX already.

I agree that 6.50 by a login with only 3 records (one of them also a suspect #1) is impossible. Deleted. But 6.84 by what appears to be a decent player gets the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks.

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#776 2015-08-19 09:01:03

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

Take a look at the cps of Dedi 1 and 3 .. I dont find any way to get those cp times... (i also know the author and he also said its impossible)

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
(TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 00349#auto)

The guy who had dedi one on the previous link has also a strange cp time there (take a look at the last cps)

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
(TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 10887#auto)

and finally this guy on dedi 1:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
Well, just look at the cp times, it's impossible to cut on this map (i checked it on the Server). I didnt find the map on tmx, but its on BE Nascar Server where you can drive it.

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#777 2015-08-19 13:27:02

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: melissaxkusje
Has only one entry, quite old and obviously cheated.

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#778 2015-08-19 13:33:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

kingwexx wrote:

Take a look at the cps of Dedi 1 and 3 .. I dont find any way to get those cp times... (i also know the author and he also said its impossible)

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
(TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 00349#auto)

http://shrani.si/t/S/10y/yVfdxS8/sadas.jpg

Are you sure it's not just a bad sector from 2nd dedi? Because I'm pretty sure a dozen of other people had same sectors as they did.

Edit: What I do find funny is the 5th sector 5.01 of dedi #2.

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#779 2015-08-19 15:13:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: melissaxkusje
Has only one entry, quite old and obviously cheated.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#780 2015-08-19 16:10:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

kingwexx wrote:

Take a look at the cps of Dedi 1 and 3 .. I dont find any way to get those cp times... (i also know the author and he also said its impossible)

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
(TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 00349#auto)

http://shrani.si/t/S/10y/yVfdxS8/sadas.jpg

Are you sure it's not just a bad sector from 2nd dedi? Because I'm pretty sure a dozen of other people had same sectors as they did.

Edit: What I do find funny is the 5th sector 5.01 of dedi #2.

Yea now its dedi 2... ... but that was dedi 3 this morning. It seems that dedi 1 was deleted today.

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