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#963 2016-01-09 02:08:10

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Today I came across a strange dedi again, so I had a good look at this guys other records:

Login: "katarina100292"

He was only active from March to November 2014 and set 7 Dedis in total - 3 of which I find very odd:

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#1 - Mini 075
UID: LgKKDMP8kAx8e3T_VgqAA245E17
TMX


he is 0,1 behind at the last checkpoint - yet he finishes with a time close to WR.
I don't see how he could be gaining this much time with nothing more to do than a slight right turn.
The second to last checkpoint also indicates a rather slow speed before the loop.

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#2 - sh0rty 2
UID: v75B9K_cosXOxz1Nrtqmo1Ewrua
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he is .03 behind at the checkpoint and finishes 0.04 in front of the WR. Very unusual sector pattern compared to the other top players.

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#3 - SCT - Paris
UID: x7TwgsIFkT7JjScK_3_B83xv5M9
TMX

different map, same story. This time the sector times are a bit divering between all players in the dedis, but again he's the only one with a pretty bad last sector and a decent finish time.

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My theory(!) is that he was using a boost hack which he activates just before the finish line.
Since he was only active in 2014 a dediban woud probably not make much sense, but if you agree with my interpretation it would be nice if you could at least clean up those three entries in doubt.


Also, I have a question to VRBA:
How do you find so many suspicious dedis? I'm glad to help you guys whenever I can (I hate cheaters) but I hardly ever come across cheated times which aren't removed yet.^^

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#964 2016-01-09 10:15:48

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

metalcoyote wrote:

Today I came across a strange dedi again, so I had a good look at this guys other records:

Login: "katarina100292"

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

metalcoyote wrote:

Since he was only active in 2014 a dediban woud probably not make much sense

Between the SCT - Paris and Mini 075 entries were five months. Other cheaters (one/two-timers) came back after much longer absences. A ban is always useful.

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#965 2016-01-09 11:21:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

metalcoyote wrote:

Also, I have a question to VRBA:
How do you find so many suspicious dedis? I'm glad to help you guys whenever I can (I hate cheaters) but I hardly ever come across cheated times which aren't removed yet.^^

I just happen to have a good eye. big_smile

There's a lot you can do by just visiting multiple servers now and then and play there for a short time.

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#966 2016-01-11 21:24:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: saba111
All records #1 cheated, didn't check the other as 4/5 is already enough.

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#967 2016-01-11 22:17:28

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: saba111
All records #1 cheated, didn't check the other as 4/5 is already enough.

Poof, thanks.

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#968 2016-01-12 23:32:29

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Onetimers
UID: 8LuBryhK_OSKaGoNF5MieC1erFf
Login: bamfc
Login: supalina

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#969 2016-01-13 13:36:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Onetimers
UID: 8LuBryhK_OSKaGoNF5MieC1erFf
Login: bamfc
Login: supalina

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#970 2016-01-13 19:07:01

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: lionblade
UID: 3NAf8KpWiYMvQXl1IxB2FMzWyCb
UID: 26x1IprhQIJySlXk9v9KlM2AqNk
UID: Yj7bvZkyPwIuN90QhXImqQfltn0
UID: UStEA_z1WLEuoUJhXtThwjc4OIl
UID: BH3MB8QPgNUjy_uHZPie6RDISVd
UID: YyrBesNgriLbikcONfuLfojE4fc
UID: 2YIhiLkTtrtOUdkv3wcuGwO0pqj
UID: nr17CZBvaFefN0xrBYhspuOFkN6

Would be nice to see some replays I guess, 1 or 2 weird entries maybe can be related to luck, but he has many of these.

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#971 2016-01-14 15:54:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: lionblade
UID: 3NAf8KpWiYMvQXl1IxB2FMzWyCb
UID: 26x1IprhQIJySlXk9v9KlM2AqNk
UID: Yj7bvZkyPwIuN90QhXImqQfltn0
UID: UStEA_z1WLEuoUJhXtThwjc4OIl
UID: BH3MB8QPgNUjy_uHZPie6RDISVd
UID: YyrBesNgriLbikcONfuLfojE4fc
UID: 2YIhiLkTtrtOUdkv3wcuGwO0pqj
UID: nr17CZBvaFefN0xrBYhspuOFkN6

Would be nice to see some replays I guess, 1 or 2 weird entries maybe can be related to luck, but he has many of these.

That login's been on my watch-list for a few months already, but none of his entries on the above tracks strike me as really suspect, with the possible exception of the two CP-devoid ones (YyrBesNgriLbikcONfuLfojE4fc, which we just checked, and Yj7bvZkyPwIuN90QhXImqQfltn0, which is impossible to locate/jukebox).

So for the time being, the benefit of the doubt applies...

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#972 2016-01-14 16:06:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

and Yj7bvZkyPwIuN90QhXImqQfltn0, which is impossible to locate/jukebox

If these tracks get added to newer servers they're not impossible to get. I'll try to get'em.

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#973 2016-01-15 20:11:53

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: it_recep
Two-timer.

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#974 2016-01-15 20:17:50

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: dandan46
UID: kbcxUk67NGSE_SB_Ac7GrI69RYd

Grass acts as asphalt, so obviously cheated. Have replay to prove this. Caught him LIVE. ^^

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#975 2016-01-15 20:47:14

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: it_recep
Two-timer.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#976 2016-01-15 20:58:14

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: dandan46
UID: kbcxUk67NGSE_SB_Ac7GrI69RYd

Grass acts as asphalt, so obviously cheated. Have replay to prove this. Caught him LIVE. ^^

Hand in the cookie jar? Chop! wink Thanks.

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#977 2016-01-15 21:01:34

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

Hand in the cookie jar? Chop! wink Thanks.

Rather the whole Jar in his mouth, assuming he forgot how to use chat after I've asked for the replay. hehe

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#978 2016-01-16 10:40:48

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: cpflow

Only 16 entries, all done this year. A bunch of 1st places and most seem to be unreasonably fast after the last cp. These for example:
DIxuuIWL5LSqV6iJH5Po7klNQNk
s_UxwBOLd6xpl1TcNnVV0_amCU5
MR1IYom1MToYZuRm8GibVFhezve

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#979 2016-01-16 13:34:04

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

skaned wrote:

Login: cpflow

Only 16 entries, all done this year. A bunch of 1st places and most seem to be unreasonably fast after the last cp. These for example:
DIxuuIWL5LSqV6iJH5Po7klNQNk
s_UxwBOLd6xpl1TcNnVV0_amCU5
MR1IYom1MToYZuRm8GibVFhezve

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#980 2016-01-16 15:06:40

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hey i got banned for no reason...
Find me the way to send you my replays and i will give you my full autosave.
I'm really angry to come here just because you don't know me so you think i'm a cheater...
I hope you gonna give me all my dedi back...

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#981 2016-01-16 15:19:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lionblade wrote:

Hey i got banned for no reason...
Find me the way to send you my replays and i will give you my full autosave.
I'm really angry to come here just because you don't know me so you think i'm a cheater...
I hope you gonna give me all my dedi back...

I'd like to see replays for these:

nWWQPEDO5SDnhC1X1JmsNfYv4p3 : 49.83 on 2012-07-22, with 3.70 on the first sector
kbcxUk67NGSE_SB_Ac7GrI69RYd : 8.58 on 2015-12-22
YyrBesNgriLbikcONfuLfojE4fc : 10.18 on 2015-12-21
Yj7bvZkyPwIuN90QhXImqQfltn0 : 15.29 on 2015-12-10

Upload to TMX if the track is there, otherwise provide a download here.

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#982 2016-01-16 15:26:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Ok everything is ready,i just have a problem about the first one because i bought this acc 2-3 years ago so this replay is not from me (you can delete it i don't care).
can i send you from e-mail?

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#983 2016-01-16 15:30:24

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

How do i "provide a download here"?

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#984 2016-01-16 15:36:51

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lionblade wrote:

How do i "provide a download here"?

Sendspace, Dropbox... somewhere that your replays can be downloaded and checked.

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#985 2016-01-16 15:53:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Ok there it is https://www.transfernow.net/01ivk7e4c4b8
tell me if you need more or anything else and please give me my dedis back.
thanks

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#986 2016-01-16 16:00:24

Vrba
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

All looks good, sorry for doubting your times, it's not normal to see someone instantly produce very good records after having them already removed a few years ago.

So it's another case of someone that just can't keep his hands on just one account sadly...

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#987 2016-01-16 16:59:14

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lionblade wrote:

Ok there it is https://www.transfernow.net/01ivk7e4c4b8

Thanks. What goes for everyone goes for you too: when driving a very unusual but legit record, upload the replay the same day to TMX or, if the track isn't available there, to this topic, then this situation can be avoided.

Unbanned and recs restored.

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#988 2016-01-19 17:47:28

Vrba
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: 8yu2qXCn78Gqwm5pSUobmvXleoj
Login: crashhh-man
One timer

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