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#1795 2022-10-22 16:14:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

The time of the player with the login "cannonick" is impossible to achieve, and just simply looking at the time of the first cp should be proof enough that this record was cheated.

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#1796 2022-10-23 01:26:59

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

b4tcave wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

The time of the player with the login "cannonick" is impossible to achieve, and just simply looking at the time of the first cp should be proof enough that this record was cheated.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1797 2022-10-30 16:11:06

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: thtreeshy
UID: 4QBD8B839g01k2Y4NMFV9OnOuXj

I've seen this person cheat before, and I do not believe this time to be possible.

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#1798 2022-10-30 17:39:33

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tophie_tm wrote:

Login: thtreeshy
UID: 4QBD8B839g01k2Y4NMFV9OnOuXj

I've seen this person cheat before, and I do not believe this time to be possible.

Found a handful more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1799 2022-11-13 23:15:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: a50s
uids: hI1yIBSYzW7HIz7wIYpTbNWDM00, rocBd6qKptpA5wXjEcDPbg_FHwd, y_QZo0xVgTIqpHRM3szCQVPROVk and likely many more of the records that he's got, those are just the first few i clicked on

login: a550s (probably the same person)
uids: uLWdd1I4Xm4oH_jNUi1qEm81Fce, hWVxbxwZQg_l0Lx28pCZ6L9AIF1 and the rest, i assume

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#1800 2022-11-14 15:06:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

barret907k wrote:

login: a50s
uids: hI1yIBSYzW7HIz7wIYpTbNWDM00, rocBd6qKptpA5wXjEcDPbg_FHwd, y_QZo0xVgTIqpHRM3szCQVPROVk and likely many more of the records that he's got, those are just the first few i clicked on

Several dozen indeed. Banned and all deleted.

barret907k wrote:

login: a550s (probably the same person)
uids: uLWdd1I4Xm4oH_jNUi1qEm81Fce, hWVxbxwZQg_l0Lx28pCZ6L9AIF1 and the rest, i assume

Not all, but enough for another ban. Thanks.

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#1801 2022-11-16 22:19:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: JEMSN7FwpQhOGsj4Ul9hPEG2kFm

Something smells fishy here...

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#1802 2022-11-17 10:13:38

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID: JEMSN7FwpQhOGsj4Ul9hPEG2kFm

Something smells fishy here...

Haha, you don't say... housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1803 2022-11-17 23:35:41

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Kacky Cheater that bypassed Competition Patch by injecting macros got busted.

UID: LQDjcEZvTyJSUTi7aAGjxz1_dkl
Challenge: Kackiest Kacky #–150
Cheated Time: 00:13.47

Cheater Login: demon226
Cheater Name: の®Ħς » sinon « ๓ђ

There are also additional input injection cheaters that need to get records cleared.
Contact me privately and I can send you further information and proof. I can't disclose all this information publicly.

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#1804 2022-11-18 11:30:55

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

nickland wrote:

Kacky Cheater that bypassed Competition Patch by injecting macros got busted.

UID: LQDjcEZvTyJSUTi7aAGjxz1_dkl
Challenge: Kackiest Kacky #–150
Cheated Time: 00:13.47

Cheater Login: demon226

Uhh, whatever, not taking anything on a ridiculous track like that serious. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1805 2022-11-18 21:35:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

nickland wrote:

Kacky Cheater that bypassed Competition Patch by injecting macros got busted.

UID: LQDjcEZvTyJSUTi7aAGjxz1_dkl
Challenge: Kackiest Kacky #–150
Cheated Time: 00:13.47

Cheater Login: demon226

Uhh, whatever, not taking anything on a ridiculous track like that serious. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

Well okay…
Maybe you don’t take it serious, but there are a whole lot of people that care and take it very serious. The cheating is much more severe than the usual flying around or boosting that is trivial to detect. The guy here literally injected perfect inputs and sold it as a valid run. Even if you don’t like Kacky, you should understand that the cheater can apply this to any track, also your favorites.

There are some more offenders, but I guess I’ll just leave it at that. Thanks for removing.

Last edited by nickland (2022-11-18 21:51:25)

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#1806 2022-11-19 08:53:39

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

nickland wrote:

you should understand that the cheater can apply this to any track, also your favorites.

I understand that much (from Wirtual's videos) but since I ceased racing over a decade ago, I don't have any favorites. W.r.t. Dedimania maintenance, I do as much as I want or care to do, and no more.

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#1807 2022-12-07 15:48:03

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: siZAWdSwqJl3gvnvn4Tm0IxCKX
login: imposs07
No way for that end.

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#1808 2022-12-07 16:26:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID: siZAWdSwqJl3gvnvn4Tm0IxCKX
login: imposs07
No way for that end.

And one (maybe two) more. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1809 2022-12-09 12:31:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: sajan1993
UID: gT7OCyhDyaqr2spVOupiWMpNNU
UID: IbjyGYruUNMuJqzysnlDDTZMcfb

Stinks of impossible sectors.

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#1810 2022-12-09 13:33:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

uuid: s2qCRu7PmojBlAxEaVx2PGuRl95
login: kiki3566

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#1811 2022-12-09 17:39:55

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Login: sajan1993
UID: gT7OCyhDyaqr2spVOupiWMpNNU
UID: IbjyGYruUNMuJqzysnlDDTZMcfb

Stinks of impossible sectors.

The same for almost all #1 entries, plus two dozen others. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1812 2022-12-09 18:05:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

miszko333 wrote:

uuid: s2qCRu7PmojBlAxEaVx2PGuRl95
login: kiki3566

And a half-dozen more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1813 2023-01-06 00:58:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I will copy out the important parts of the discord thread we created.


Thread for Angerfist (Login: zimman) potentially cheating

This thread was created to collect suspicious times and proof of Angerfist potentially cheating. He is rarely online and everytime he is online he sets ubeatable records by such a margin on his first time playing the map that his times become questionable.) Noone saw him play activly ingame yet, the rare times he is on the server he is afk most of the time. And i speak of him being online maybe twice a month on our server but everytime he is, he sets a sick time.

1. Map:
http://tmnf.exchange/trackshow/7337511
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

He got a 8.65.
The track is not cuttable and we are certain that it can´t be done 0.2 faster than this run:
http://streamable.com/ifec12
8.85

2. Map:
http://nations.tm-exchange.com/trackshow/1461025
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

We checked the track with TAS and could not match his pace or find a different possibility to drive the map. It is straight forward and he still beats out Soft by 0.13. Impossible in our opinion.

3. Map:
http://tmnf.exchange/trackshow/9722276
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

We tried to replicate his checkpoint time and could not tie it at all. The lead he has over the other records is surreal.

4. Map:
http://tmnf.exchange/trackshow/9788721
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Another track where he came online and beat the record just like that by 0.21 without having set a time on the track before.


Conclusion:

We checked many other maps he got dedi 1 on, where his times also seems suspicious but could be doable in some way. These 4 are the most suspicious ones but there are multiple more.
Especially on map 1 and 2 we are sure that it is impossible to set these times.
On map 3 an 4 we highly doubt the times.

To put it in a nutshell we think he cheats. Thats why we decided to write this report and ask the dedimania mods to look at his records.

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#1814 2023-01-06 13:52:51

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrian10032003 wrote:

Thread for Angerfist (Login: zimman) potentially cheating
[...]
Conclusion:

We checked many other maps he got dedi 1 on, where his times also seems suspicious but could be doable in some way. These 4 are the most suspicious ones but there are multiple more.
Especially on map 1 and 2 we are sure that it is impossible to set these times.
On map 3 an 4 we highly doubt the times.

Agreed on all four, and I found several more:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS 1st sector
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS 5th & 6th sectors
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS 4th sector
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS 4th sector
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS 1st sector

What do you think?

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#1815 2023-01-06 15:01:34

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

First map is again suspicious with the typical lead he has over the others. On such a short track not explainable to us.

On second track we tried to tie his cp, but couldn´t get close to it. Seems impossible.

Third track is just ???. It is a fullspeed track and he is .19 behind at cp 4 to just suddenly be .04 ahead of dedi 2 at cp 5...

On the fourth map we don't inderstand the sector either.

Fifth map he catches .09 on a hunted track with 1 drift .-.

And sixth one is also unexplainable.

From our side we don't need further proof, it is obvious cheating for us..

We think he tries to hide it by not setting too good times and only giving him small speed boosts that give him, depending on the map, like a 0.05-0.30 lead over others just to make it look possible. 
We think he does it on almost every map where he has a record, but on most it is unprovable.

Like on this one for example:
http://tmnf.exchange/trackshow/7222419
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

fwo hunted this track activly, plastorex set the record and everyone was sure that it is almost impossible to beat.
Angerfist just joined our server got the record in one round... on a track that was hunted bei fwo and was on the two biggest lucky jump servers for over 3 years.

Not really provable that its cheated but very suspicious..

At the end we conclude that he cheats. Having multiple records with leads of 0.1-0.3 over a seemingly clean run, on maps where this lead is just impossible is a clear case for us.

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#1816 2023-01-06 16:28:16

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrian10032003 wrote:

We think he tries to hide it by not setting too good times and only giving him small speed boosts that give him, depending on the map, like a 0.05-0.30 lead over others just to make it look possible. 
We think he does it on almost every map where he has a record, but on most it is unprovable.

Yeah, have seen this behavior plenty times before.

adrian10032003 wrote:

fwo hunted this track activly, plastorex set the record and everyone was sure that it is almost impossible to beat.
Angerfist just joined our server got the record in one round... on a track that was hunted bei fwo and was on the two biggest lucky jump servers for over 3 years.

Not really provable that its cheated but very suspicious.

Right.

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1817 2023-01-18 15:29:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: g6y_vYPVyKci95AXXVJGXPJqv2j
#1 seems to have tested something, as he has only 2 entries with this one being suspiciously fast.

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#1818 2023-01-18 19:30:59

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID: g6y_vYPVyKci95AXXVJGXPJqv2j
#1 seems to have tested something, as he has only 2 entries with this one being suspiciously fast.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1819 2023-01-30 13:58:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: suyfihsfgi

I noticed it on track: 1sxbFJtcX2RW2SIabVTvnnlOrK6
A map hunted to the last ms. No way that player got -.08
Looked up other records driven and noticed even more suspicious records.

E.g: ant3pqmELbaOQjwlu5KxUwpSOha
More than a second faster than others.

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#1820 2023-01-30 21:34:42

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

buugraa wrote:

Login: suyfihsfgi

I noticed it on track: 1sxbFJtcX2RW2SIabVTvnnlOrK6
A map hunted to the last ms. No way that player got -.08
Looked up other records driven and noticed even more suspicious records.

E.g: ant3pqmELbaOQjwlu5KxUwpSOha
More than a second faster than others.

Banned and all deleted, thanks,

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