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#79 2014-01-21 01:18:18

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:maverick00 wrote:

Wanting to compare with another player, this is what I found.
On this video: http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … t_dirt.mp4 a player (login bosswanted24 ) drift on the grass with the traces of drift road and the sound of drift road.

video : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Canada.mp4 drift road on grass

map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 19:13

Other maps where it reproduces :

map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at :  21:8

map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 39:95

map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 39:60

After several hours of testing and comparison with nearly 100 replays, I managed to get the following conclusions: the road signs can appear on a length of a car before or after the road / dirt fitting.

But it is absolutely impossible to continue the drift road in the grass.

I understand better now that Xymph to spend a lot more time than you might think to be sure to make the right decision at verification.

So I left the maps where this appears impossible, thereby reducing the verification time for qualified person.

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#80 2014-01-21 19:30:42

Xymph
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:7alvin wrote:

xymph wrote:

tm2:7alvin wrote:

If you compare the MX records here: http://tm.mania-exchange.com/tracks/219 … d-mini-128 you'll see that he used speedhacks or something on the long straight jumps and the 1st dedi is the same as the 1st on MX here, so obviously a cheater for me.

I see the speedboost in the MX replay, but that's not my problem. I don't see it in the Dedi #1 replay.
Compared to the Dedi #3 ghost replay, there is no dirt thrown up nor drifting sounds in the long left bend in both, that happens only in the MX replays.

So I'm not yet convinced phil13hebert is something I need to deal with in Dedimania2.  Then again, the same login is a banned cheater in Dedimania1/TMF, and that could well be the same player, so feel free to report suspect entries on other tracks in Dedimania2 and I'll look again. Report only tracks for which a ghost replay by phil13hebert is available, and make those reports detailed enough.

I found 2 other replays with the same cheating's codes.

- http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS (Dirt turn on the left)

Accepted.

tm2:7alvin wrote:

- http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS (We can clearly see the cheat at the end of his run)

That one was already covered.

I need to see at least one more in order to proceed to a ban.

tm2:7alvin wrote:

I also checked a lot of his watchables runs and in general the maps have no dirt part to see this cheat. I think it's enough to ban him. If not enough, I would like a delete of his 3 replays at least, it's not fair to have impossible times to beat cause of that and it disturbs people. Finally, he cheated on TMNF so I don't see why he wouldn't on TM2, cheaters are always cheaters

That's no evidence, that's just prejudice.

tm2:7alvin wrote:

I read your last post, but please, we donated to you for your great work, it's unfair to keep cheaters on your nice work

You didn't donate to me, nor for my anti-cheating efforts.  Donations are to Slig for maintaining the master server with all its data traffic (which cost real money, and plenty of it).

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#81 2014-01-25 12:02:50

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

It's really long to watch all his replays and so much aren't cheat. There are some craps runs but some really good too. He's totally legit in general but unfortunately he decided to try to cheat only a few maps. So that's why I think he doesn't deserve a ban here but his cheated replays should be deleted to clean the leaderboards.

Last edited by tm2:7alvin (2014-01-26 15:01:21)

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#82 2014-01-25 23:29:40

Xymph
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:7alvin wrote:

It's really long to watch all his replays and so much aren't cheat. There are some craps runs but some really good too. He's totally legit in general but unfortunately he decided to try to cheat only a few maps. So that's why I think he doesn't serve a ban here but his cheated replays should be deleted to clean the leaderboards.

Well, the three replays happened on three different days, so he's a repeat offender anyway. Banned and top 3 recs deleted.

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#83 2014-01-26 15:03:34

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Yeah exactly, thank you very much.

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#84 2014-03-11 14:25:38

Awsomniac Laurens
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

I hope a moderator is still active in here cuz' I found a cheater too.

Login: interdico
In-game name: Focuson.Devil
Map: Mr.DvD Mini 20
Envi: TM² Canyon
Dedimana Link: http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=s … HVDLh2LHn9

Firstly I thought dedimania could recognise cheaters, cuz' I didn't see one often in the records,
But it seems you guys are just working hard to ban the cheaters! Keep the work on!

Hopefully soon a respons here and a ban for him.

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#85 2014-03-11 19:10:13

Xymph
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:laupowa92 wrote:

But it seems you guys are just working hard to ban the cheaters! Keep the work on!

Not at all.

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#86 2014-03-11 19:39:20

TX-Slig
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:laupowa92 wrote:

Login: interdico
In-game name: Focuson.Devil
Map: Mr.DvD Mini 20
Envi: TM² Canyon
Dedimana Link: http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=s … HVDLh2LHn9

The replay looks strange, especially the start. Anyway, Xymph who is far more used to detect cheats than me gave up on TM2, so i won't ban only on this one : i have deleted this record and i keep infos and replays. Now wait for a next top1 with strange replay from him...

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#87 2014-03-12 13:29:47

Awsomniac Laurens
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Thanks to remove it at least, will let you know if I find another one from him.

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#88 2014-03-14 11:52:09

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

don't know - but replay is unter the map?!?!


http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

1. dedi
Login: eckmeck

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#89 2014-05-20 21:19:38

doppler
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Don't know if this guy is a cheater, but this replay is a bit fishy.
The dedi 1 time is amazingly quick and if you check the ghost, it seems to disappear after the first corner.

Please check this: http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

-Edit- Never mind it's some kind of bug. If you respawn on the cp you'll appear under the map. So it's a glitch and a cut.

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#90 2014-05-30 14:03:57

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Most likely a cheater :

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … how=RECORD

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … how=RECORD

There is several random and huge gains of time at different spots of the map (you can clearly notice that when you compare with second dedi times)

Ty in advance

Last edited by tm2:ngtt (2014-05-30 14:06:12)

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#91 2014-07-03 10:46:57

« ò¡ó » Vrbnjak Jr. ? ?
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

ZuBMz38f4_LID6GqwRDFBHcMF4a Suspicious entry... his sectors are way out of the pattern and also his other entries look suspicious.

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#92 2014-07-12 03:20:36

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

hello there!

i found that my account got banned from dedimania by googling my playername / username.
i just would like to know how i could be a cheater, in a game that my computer cant even run at 15 fps.
bought it the first day, played the first day, then got ride of the lags then i totaly stopped playing.
thanks for any answer!

Note : i actualy do hack for others game, but its not mean i cheated on a game i played once. if i can show any screenshot of prooving im not logged in far away from the cheated replay, just ask me and tell me if its possible. i guess by re installing, loggin then get a message like tmuf that say that itd my first loggin since a long time ago.

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#93 2014-07-12 07:43:25

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Since when can you Google you login and see that you are banned?

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#94 2014-07-12 09:25:33

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:baba59190 wrote:

i found that my account got banned from dedimania by googling my playername / username.
i just would like to know how i could be a cheater,

Ban reported:  http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 3867#p3867
But it was applied the previous month, after login baba59190 cheated three times on 2013-04-23 and another eight times on 2013-04-24.

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#95 2014-07-12 12:11:48

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

xymph wrote:

tm2:baba59190 wrote:

i found that my account got banned from dedimania by googling my playername / username.
i just would like to know how i could be a cheater,

Ban reported:  http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 3867#p3867
But it was applied the previous month, after login baba59190 cheated three times on 2013-04-23 and another eight times on 2013-04-24.

thanks for the fast answer! yes it is for me impossible to play trackmania in 2013 as i had to reformat my hdd in 2012. i will check the loggin message. and change my password.

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#96 2014-08-04 18:39:32

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

login bigwutz is a cheater saw him cheating twice on two different servers.

here a example when i saw him cheating just now on this map

on the last but one cp he has 26373 ms and at the end 30488 ms
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … how=RECORD

the first dedi on same map has 25874 ms and at end 30347 ms. The end is a loop and a straight jump.
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … how=RECORD

other people cps all normal but him
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … how=RECORD

the other time i saw him cheating he did impossible cps at straight start with booster. Everybody was within 0.03 and he has -0.15 or something. I don't remember the map thought. I pmed him and he left immediately.

I'm sure you will find proof of him cheating on pretty much every rec he did.

Last edited by tm2:jui (2014-08-04 18:41:21)

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#97 2014-08-08 00:01:07

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Hey

login: gehenna111 in TM2Stadium

So as i were watching a stream this name came up and caught my attention. Some people said he might hack, some were sure he does and other said no he does not.
First i have checked his GR's of a few records and even compared them to other GR's of other drivers (with help from another driver, who was able to judge specific situations). In comparison to other driver there were some questionable parts in those replays.
But i do not know how accurate those GR replays are, so i decided to validate the VR's and on every map i did , the validation failed for exact this player (msg "Replay is not valid. Expecting finished Race").
I took the VR's of Top ~  5-7.
Again i am not really sure how accurate or relevant these savings are but i find it very unlikely that only his replays fail to validate. Thats why i am posting it here big_smile

I know that xymph kinda dropped tm2 support (cheater-wise)but i thought i'll give it a try and you guys might take a look into it

Maps i have checked and i could check a few more, when you say VR's are relevant:

login TM2Stadium: gehenna111

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … mp;Limit=0

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … mp;Limit=0

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … Limit=1000

(Some in Rounds mode and some in TA thats why i post dedimniastats links otherwise i would have posted the UID)

so thats about it big_smile

Last edited by boerta87 (2014-08-08 00:14:23)

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#98 2014-08-25 09:31:35

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

I think these two guys have cheated all their first and second Dedimania-Records. It is not possible to drive off so fast at the start wink

Login : erikrior
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

Login : tikanoss
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

Thanks for the good job, that you makes over years for the community

regards

Det

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#99 2014-08-26 00:02:29

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

kingston wrote:

I think these two guys have cheated all their first and second Dedimania-Records. It is not possible to drive off so fast at the start wink

Login : erikrior
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

Login : tikanoss
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

Banned and all deleted.

kingston wrote:

Thanks for the good job, that you makes over years for the community

Not at all. The only reason I dealt with these two is that they were totally obvious; I'm not returning for regular maintenance.

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#100 2014-08-27 01:49:28

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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

New hacker...

login: jumper0815

Obvious speehack on multiple replays, such as:
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … Limit=1500

http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … Limit=1500

Please ban, thanks cool

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#101 2014-08-31 14:52:32

MakeLove ?
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

xymph wrote:

Not at all. The only reason I dealt with these two is that they were totally obvious; I'm not returning for regular maintenance.

Xymph do you consider letting some else do the work?

I found another potential cheater today was driving a track with a very suspicious rec and checked CP times which are way off. It seems with free accounts now cheating is easy and more common.

I understand that its much work (you do not want to do). But in the long run its not good for dedimania and TM2 in general if the database is open for cheating. Is there a possibility to find a solution for this issues?

However thanks for your work on XASECO and dedis smile

Last edited by tm2:jui (2014-08-31 14:52:51)

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#102 2014-08-31 17:14:21

Xymph
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

tm2:jui wrote:

xymph wrote:

Not at all. The only reason I dealt with these two is that they were totally obvious; I'm not returning for regular maintenance.

Xymph do you consider letting some else do the work?

That's up to Slig.

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#103 2014-09-01 14:28:31

MakeLove ?
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Ok i understand. I guess its not so easy to find a person who can do the job because you would need direct database access and database knowledge.

Its just kinda sad to see cheated recs when it used to be not the case.

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#104 2014-09-03 14:36:11

*aAa* Cle?ment.
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania

Hello guys.
I just found a hacker...

Login: dosojin

Has cheated times on some famous maps, for example:

Snowrose: http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

Back to the World: http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS

I hope you can do something about him smile

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