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Hello,

there is a guy who has driven a lot of records on our server.

Login: michaelundmartina

I think the guy should be blacklisted. Here are the evidences:

Track: Lol Fun #18

--> http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

Track: Lol-Mini4

--> http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS


Track: Mini-22

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS


Track: short-mini 0062

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

Watch the checkpoint-times of the first checkpoint for each of the tracks and compare it with the other records. He's surely using speed start hack.

Please delete the Records of him and blacklist him?!?!

'[ηωο wrote:

Login: michaelundmartina

I think the guy should be blacklisted. Here are the evidences:
[...]

Watch the checkpoint-times of the first checkpoint for each of the tracks and compare it with the other records. He's surely using speed start hack.

Please delete the Records of him and blacklist him?!?!

Yeah, they (and a bunch more) were more subtle than most cheated records, but cheated nonetheless.
Thanks for the report, which also led me on the trail of another persistent cheater (chris1203) who escaped my scans so far. Both are now banned from Dedimania.

Last edited by Xymph (2009-05-26 00:31:01)

'[ηωο wrote:

Seems to be the case that you only deleted the records of MichaelUndMartina he has driven on the 8th of May. Dont you think all his records should be deleted? At least there are a few more records of him on the 9th of May which are incoherent.

Not sure where you're looking, but I deleted all his records from this entire month:
http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
Not all were cheated, but so many were that I didn't know which ones could be trusted, and besides he deserved 'punishment' for the cheating in the first place.

chris1203 was much worse, with dozens of cheated records since about March 22, so I deleted all entries as far back as November to compensate. ;-)
http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Btw, a much more extensive thread about cheaters, mostly on Dedimania, is here:
http://www.tm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19403

Last edited by Xymph (2009-05-26 09:35:51)

'[ηωο wrote:

Ahh I thought the punishment for a lot of cheated records would be to delete all of his records.

It depends on how many records were present, usually I delete an approximately equal (but larger) number of non-cheated entries compared to the cheated ones, like a tit-for-tat approach. But if that leaves few real records, I usually clean up the remainder too.

inSight!arctıfıcıał. wrote:

Here;
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … 7df95YRe5b

The first dedi rec is definitely a cheated one.

Nope, it's not cheated, but the sector times for the 1st and 4th records were quite different from the rest. Either it's a cut that's rarely driven (not even in the #1 solo replay on TMX) or those entries were misplaced from another track into this one.
I deleted both, let's see if a similar entry returns.

inSight!arctıfıcıał. wrote:

Here's an another one;

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … XX72JLX73c

That's not a cheat but a finish cut, although I'm not quite sure how he did it.  He got cuts on a few other of his #1 tracks too, which I could reproduce.

Last edited by Xymph (2009-05-29 10:19:28)

tip-clan.de | Matrix wrote:

A02-Race by  Nadeo     JwKdDsOUh4L9_eYyRsdiA2o1fW1
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

Yeah, that already popped up in my daily consistency scans and I deleted them earlier today.

tip-clan.de | Matrix wrote:

error by our database Track changed with remoteCP4

Server:

Track1
Track2
Track3
Track4

Track changed with rcp fro Track1 to Track3, Ingame Track changed from Track1 to Track3 but in Info still stand Track2

ill be working on fixing this problem

I've observed a few other servers running RCP 4.0.3.1 that also submit records for the wrong tracks, it might be a general problem with that RCP version.

[ηωο]<font color='black'><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#ff0000"> 傘 ᄽ<font color="#99ff00">ᆢ<font color="#ff0000">ᄿ 傘 wrote:

We've found 3 cheaters on our server:

login: grinsbcke1111 nickname: boogyman
login: nolies nickname: nolies
login: diddi2hell nickname: FastCar

Evidence through replay: http://dwc.inetgamer.de/Forum/viewtopic … ;/font>

Thanks for the report, all three confirmed in the Dedimania database, and banned/blacklisted.

Ŷρĵ Topi wrote:

An other wrong record :
- UId : 2Hac0yVYskBnNeroc5UXOymoE9
- mode : TA
- time : 28.09
- login : yusuke00
- it's simply impossible to make 28.09, the run perfect its maybe 28.40 - 28.50 and he are in Powers team, a team of cheater.
- http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS

Yup, and he had cheated times on 8 more tracks too. Deleted, and login banned.  Thanks for the report.

Hi all

A player cheated on a track: # 400cc # LoL 50
- UId : gMmoIgew6bplFhCU6I7VZyjqmd6
- mode : TA
- time : 9.96
- login : yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaa
- it's simply impossible to make his time
- http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … how=RECORD

Thank U in advance

Ŷρĵ Topi wrote:

An others wrong record :
1)
- UId : ewsIzE4TIiEqzfp1yHdtuQ8AtQl
- mode : TA
- time : 26.85
- It's a member of my team, it's not a cheater but his team in dedimania bug, he never did this time, I want to remove this time because it gives a bad reputation to our team because people believe that cheat then that is a bug

Yes, it's not a cheated time, so no worries.  Deleted the bogus entry.

Ŷρĵ Topi wrote:

2)
- login : napaithanei and gamiarou

3)
- login : pro4ever1

All three had a whole bunch of cheated entries, so all their records are deleted now and the logins banned.

Ŷρĵ Topi wrote:

4)
- UId : lhFAzajzu5SK5n07YCqHG4MOe8g
- mode : TA
- time : 23.27 -> 27.42
- it's simply impossible to make the time enter 23.27 et 27.42, the run perfect its maybe 28.50. There are 7 record below that bar, but I would for a bug and no cut.

Good catch, it's a misplaced batch due to some script error. Deleted.

Thanks for the reports.

NoS》 ैुÇңξΛτξЯ´ू《 wrote:

UId:rgACyrCBAlkreTZWIFdzvO1FQs0
mode:TA
time:00:30.23
login:ioannina
why wrong rec?=> hmm i have WR on Japan Style (30.38) and in my opinion a 30.23 is not possible ...AND the thing which is more important: "Checkpoints(ms):3770,11660,26300,30230 "

Yup, that's a known cheat, and he used it on half a dozen tracks or more. Login banned, and all his #1-3 times deleted as punishment. Very stupid to go cheating, he was apparently a decent player with hundreds of Dedimania records.

...btw ...i know what u think 'bout my nik xD...but it was fun when i choosed it..'cause sometimes guys think that i cheat..because i drive very well =P

Yeah, sure. %-)

Ŷρĵ Ťѳヤĭ ווו 〤 wrote:

1)
- it's simply impossible to make the time enter 23.24 et 24.94, the run perfect its maybe 26.40-26.50. There are 7 record below that bar, but I would for a bug and no cut. Error script ?
- http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Actually, there are two cuts on this track, see the 21.92 (!) replay on TMX:
http://nations.tm-exchange.com/main.asp … id=1522113
So those Dedi records look feasible to me.

Ŷρĵ Ťѳヤĭ ווו 〤 wrote:

2)
- time : 29.28
- login : wistity
- it's simply impossible to make 29.28, the run perfect its maybe 31.70.
- http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

There's a finish cut on this track, see the 31.53 replay on TMX:
http://nations.tm-exchange.com/main.asp … ;id=320454
I suspect wistity had more luck on the landing and thus did it 2 secs faster.

Thanks for the reports though.