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#547 2012-02-03 19:19:20

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Re: Wrong records

hey,

i found this map:
uid: wIzTFHgxaGAIOzhXQZKHG8j7Iv

i think the first and second record is cheat. or?

ohhh boerta, das er wirklich gesagt das er forceair , capsogel oder diablo ist ? loooool so doof ist keiner^^ ich glaube ihr solltet alle mal eine gescheite beschäftigung suchen hahaha. immer wieder lustig hier^^ harz4 tv im forum "Mitten im Leben" und du der hauptdarsteller... naja,mir egal xDD

aber guck mal hier login :plastunio

der fährt jeden tag 4-6 neue 1. dedis^^ und?? ist das ein cheater?? wenn du das spiel ned kannst dann spiel mau mau ^^

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#548 2012-02-03 20:01:09

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

login: loft-room

i have enough of this douche

Then why did you wait so long before bringing it up here? wink

boerta87 wrote:

he beats records (hard records) always with 0,01 that is annoying. his first records are mostly without cps so we cant proof a shit-.- and the records with cps are so lucky ones (tried a few) !
btw i was on his server with a second account and he told me that he is forceair/capsogel/diablo (dont know how many logins he got) and blacklistet me after that^^.

Sounds like him alright, but you didn't think to capture a screenshot of that confession, I suppose?

boerta87 wrote:

so as i said we tried a few  maps. there is one map with one cp and his 2nd sector seems to be strage cause in whole dedimania no one got a sector like him. his time is possible even mor i think, but a m8 made a similar time and the 2nd sector is still weird.

That login has entries on plenty of tracks with CPs -- which one exactly are you talking about?

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#549 2012-02-03 21:31:39

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Re: Wrong records

lol i forgot to post the map id^^ maybe iam the douche big_smile


V7rXNRADxztSvh94gdMnlZKIibl

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45172#auto


couldnt take screenshot a got blacklistet instantly after he said that -.-

greetz

Last edited by boerta87 (2012-02-03 21:33:38)

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#550 2012-02-03 23:01:45

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Re: Wrong records

devil-93 wrote:

i found this map:
uid: wIzTFHgxaGAIOzhXQZKHG8j7Iv

i think the first and second record is cheat. or?

Nah, just a misplaced batch. Cleaned up.

devil-93 wrote:

aber guck mal hier login :plastunio

der fährt jeden tag 4-6 neue 1. dedis^^ und?? ist das ein cheater??

Maybe, that login is already on my warning llist for one confirmed cheat. More evidence is needed before a ban though.

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#551 2012-02-04 01:19:34

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Re: Wrong records

I totally agree with boerta87,
i noticed this acc some weeks ago too.
I noticed Diablo's/forceair's style of "cheating", most of the maps dont have a cp and it's all 0.0x to 2nd dedi(and most of the "loft-room"-dedis are on the same maps like forceair/diablo's in those days.
And I was at his server too, blacklist; 2nd acc --> blacklist too.
But this "loft-room" is just online when the freezone-server is password-protected(offtopic: against freezone-rules^^...nvm)
Maybe boerta will speak about the conversations at his server with diablo/forceair wink
sick wink
PS: i think devil-93 is the "public acc" of this goddamn diablo-forceair-guy
He always try to blame Teryo or Sucxces, who helped to catch forceair, diablo,......
THiNK about it ;-)

edit: plastunio is very good driver, he almost beat the dedirecs at all maps wink
So if you have a suspicious dedi of him, tell it here, maybe i can get a replay of that then

Last edited by sick_castrator (2012-02-04 01:21:45)

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#552 2012-02-04 18:29:28

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

edit: plastunio is very good driver, he almost beat the dedirecs at all maps wink
So if you have a suspicious dedi of him, tell it here, maybe i can get a replay of that then

4.23 til first CP on UUiOOQTnHUBRsIPh9geoVgd5MPl seemed like a cheat to me.

PS. Off-topic garbage posts deleted. Please stick to reporting suspect records in this thread.

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#553 2012-02-04 22:36:48

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

lol i forgot to post the map id^^ maybe iam the douche

And for repeating the same thing two more times, which I deleted.  I do have a life, so things that take a lot of time (such as checking loft-room's recs) get postponed until I have such time.

boerta87 wrote:

V7rXNRADxztSvh94gdMnlZKIibl
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45172#auto

Hard to say whether that second sector of 8.29 is impossible, though the other recs have 8.39-8.56, so I reckon it's suspect.

After checking loft-room's 470 top-10 entries, I found only two further suspects:

9.75 on EYHDAhs8voyNgAweywZft9sHi29
http://united.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx … ;id=523269

11.92 to first CP on a_f1CrIlpvP1JHe7wdk3V5BbXY
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=3951148

Can some expert drivers comment on their feasiblity?

boerta87 wrote:

couldnt take screenshot a got blacklistet instantly after he said that

Well, if you hadn't confirmed the kick prompt you might have been able to capture a screen with the chat text, but too late now obviously.

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#554 2012-02-05 01:47:29

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Re: Wrong records

xymph wrote:

boerta87 wrote:

V7rXNRADxztSvh94gdMnlZKIibl
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45172#auto

Hard to say whether that second sector of 8.29 is impossible, though the other recs have 8.39-8.56, so I reckon it's suspect.

After checking loft-room's 470 top-10 entries, I found only two further suspects:

9.75 on EYHDAhs8voyNgAweywZft9sHi29
http://united.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx … ;id=523269

11.92 to first CP on a_f1CrIlpvP1JHe7wdk3V5BbXY
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=3951148

Can some expert drivers comment on their feasiblity?

boerta87 wrote:

couldnt take screenshot a got blacklistet instantly after he said that

Well, if you hadn't confirmed the kick prompt you might have been able to capture a screen with the chat text, but too late now obviously.

9.75 on EYHDAhs8voyNgAweywZft9sHi29

--dont think thats possible tried it a few times reched ,88. ,84 ist a lucky time here but ,75 seems cheated (isnt loft-room anyway)

11.92 to first CP on a_f1CrIlpvP1JHe7wdk3V5BbXY

--rus_mischa got 11.10 cp on it  so this one is possible

replay:
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 51148#auto

EDIT: on this map too http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45172#auto

rus-mischa tried it ! and he uploaded a replay ! he thinks that the 2nd sector of loft-room is impossible too. he got 8.38 and it was kinda a perfect run.
greetz

Last edited by boerta87 (2012-02-05 04:22:45)

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#555 2012-02-05 15:28:52

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

9.75 on EYHDAhs8voyNgAweywZft9sHi29

--dont think thats possible tried it a few times reched ,88. ,84 ist a lucky time here but ,75 seems cheated (isnt loft-room anyway)

Oh right... I came across it because loft-room has the 2nd time. It turns out the login of the 1st time had a couple more cheated entries that same day, so that's all cleaned out now.

boerta87 wrote:

11.92 to first CP on a_f1CrIlpvP1JHe7wdk3V5BbXY

--rus_mischa got 11.10 cp on it  so this one is possible

replay:
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 51148#auto

EDIT: on this map too http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45172#auto

rus-mischa tried it ! and he uploaded a replay ! he thinks that the 2nd sector of loft-room is impossible too. he got 8.38 and it was kinda a perfect run.

Thanks for the replays, but that means there's only one probably-cheated entry for loft-room, plus your assertion that he's forceair/capsogel/etc. and the similar modus operandi. That's rather insufficient for a ban, I'll need more evidence for that.

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#556 2012-02-05 22:22:05

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Re: Wrong records

i i know that^^ but he got plenty of recs where he got always  0,01 better that the thing^^ and this are always maps without cps -.- 

hmm http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 36260#auto

u deleted this frist rec of loft-room?? that was for example a hard dedi to break and he got ,95

anyways have to wait and see

thx

greetz

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#557 2012-02-05 22:57:50

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

i i know that^^ but he got plenty of recs where he got always  0,01 better that the thing^^ and this are always maps without cps -.- 

hmm http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 36260#auto

u deleted this frist rec of loft-room?? that was for example a hard dedi to break and he got ,95

Yes, the normal procedure for one cheated entry is to delete about two dozen more as initial punishment.
The .96 replay on TMX by rus_mischa looks very tight but I can't tell whether it's impossible to shave 0.01 off of it. So that gets the benefit of the doubt.

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#558 2012-02-06 09:15:58

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Re: Wrong records

hey

login: misterstreight

all his 5 first dedis are cehated

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ;Limit=400

greetz

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#559 2012-02-06 18:18:01

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

login: misterstreight

all his 5 first dedis are cehated

And the rest are cheated too.  Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#560 2012-02-06 20:38:37

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#561 2012-02-06 22:56:26

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Re: Wrong records

raf-al wrote:

Login: ratafulhas121234

Again: http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 2693#p2693 roll

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#562 2012-02-07 00:59:39

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Re: Wrong records

Login: jake_nz
9HcbJWNF1UrXVHXDVuqcz_XQO1
http://www.dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=st … how=RECORD

impossible time.

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#563 2012-02-07 07:54:23

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

Login: jake_nz
9HcbJWNF1UrXVHXDVuqcz_XQO1
http://www.dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=st … how=RECORD

impossible time.

A one-timer with no other recent recs. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#564 2012-02-07 23:29:13

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Re: Wrong records

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

first dedi 8.57 is impossible
login: jonas_althammer

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#565 2012-02-08 20:31:04

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Re: Wrong records

enryx13 wrote:

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=H5NMPvZvVoeJ5bM_zEattoD5_s0&Show=RECORD

Top1 weird cp times ...

Correcting myself
Time is not cheated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAxm2ubH … re=related last replay shown
Sorry Bata wink

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#566 2012-02-08 21:04:29

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=eZBSGqstBqDLEjAg4YuNh7m30sj&Show=RECORDS

first dedi 8.57 is impossible
login: jonas_althammer

Old entry on a track without CPs, that didn't mean much yet, but his next two entries (on two separate days) were also cheated. That makes him a repeat offender, so ban and clean-up performed. Thanks for the report.

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#567 2012-02-12 01:09:41

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#568 2012-02-12 15:46:01

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&Show=RECORDS&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=a2eCSi120RbYE3mgIGLRghvGxn4
login: gustel_23
seems impossible

Maybe, maybe not, but there's no indication of cheating on other tracks by this login either. I cleaned it up, with no further consequences.

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#569 2012-02-13 18:09:53

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Re: Wrong records

hi

login: hearle475

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 91800#auto

weird sector times . i think its cheated

greetz

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#570 2012-02-13 19:47:06

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

login: hearle475

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 91800#auto

weird sector times . i think its cheated

Yep, and a few more entries like that a couple days earlier. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#571 2012-02-14 11:43:04

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Re: Wrong records

Hi my loggin smoke_94 is ban for a player who don t like me. (walkirie).
Please Mr moderator delete this ban even if I play this game has much more.
i want not war with this player, just play with my all friend.
Thanks and good day

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#572 2012-02-14 14:51:59

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Re: Wrong records

smoke_94 wrote:

Hi my loggin smoke_94 is ban for a player who don t like me. (walkirie).
Please Mr moderator delete this ban even if I play this game has much more.
i want not war with this player, just play with my all friend.

I don't care what walkirie and you think of eachother, but thanks for popping up here.

Read this post, and show me (e.g. upload to TMX) your #1 replays for at least half of the following tracks:

z0GwSm5xFwHCv4SOKd5n2_rs6b8
E9IbujcJfXx6TfPds6itfCezL7l
az4f7HeDQ0999PARHrYCwi_RjYm
cvo66QftTpgs6Ja57CelM5Jukj6
XLURARfShwNGG8GViPDdR81k1sk
yc8PBxACkM0uO0Bt75OE892Mr8b
x1ce61_eEzqXdRCY0DMJBaV07Kh
x29XittLjbDgRR5TGqRqAW0Uayk
r7cEK1dm8HRPfcd9FO3JaKd5Bl4
wqvotgZ2Erlh7JaSZj_8F2jHZ_7
FWLsEGh8CIXcpFG1tk4eWlJxhT3
jc4_6v9aGJLB13P3ERZMddJGuHk
G0NT_N1Re23_MqAxl7m7hf4YWng

Your sector patterns deviate from what's typical for those tracks, so I need to see how you did those, or they'll be considered cheated entries, with all the usual consequences.

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