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#27 2012-09-11 18:06:00
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
- UId : zAsILFiPB6hLKAtdapaRY1i3Z3l
- Login : reveshin
- His rec : 11:00.59 GPS (video with recs of best rpg's players) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw-DEFYp … e=youtu.be
Here it is the real dedi recs http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
- 1st TA
- http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=4418999
It's a new TMN account. Is it possible to ban his real account as well?
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#28 2012-09-11 18:07:43
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
enryx13 wrote:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=FE3wE_645jfY8sOgji7QqA3EEGh&Show=RECORDS
top1 by kissio suspect time
Looks cheated to me indeed. Housekeeping performed, thanks.
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#29 2012-09-11 18:45:15
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
desmo_89 wrote:
- UId : zAsILFiPB6hLKAtdapaRY1i3Z3l
- Login : reveshin
- His rec : 11:00.59 GPS (video with recs of best rpg's players) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw-DEFYp … e=youtu.be
Here it is the real dedi recs http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
- 1st TA
- http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=4418999
I don't see what the only entry on a track with 19 CPs says about a player (with no indication of cheating among his other records) in comparison to another track (not on TMX) with only 5 CPs. And I don't have time to watch a long video.
desmo_89 wrote:
It's a new TMN account. Is it possible to ban his real account as well?
No, because one-timers -- if the above is indeed a cheated entry -- never get banned (it would clutter up the blacklist too much), and it's usually not certain what other account belongs to the same player.
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#30 2012-09-12 11:32:32
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
Found a new cheater
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
login:yessoon
Obviously he cheats after last cp.
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#31 2012-09-12 11:48:58
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
xymph wrote:
I don't see what the only entry on a track with 19 CPs says about a player (with no indication of cheating among his other records) in comparison to another track (not on TMX) with only 5 CPs. And I don't have time to watch a long video.
Don't u have time to see a couple of mins of that vids? It's one of the most difficult track ever done which the records are >1h (in the best cases). How can 11min be done? They are the same track where other cps are added to let players finish that map "easyer".
xymph wrote:
No, because one-timers -- if the above is indeed a cheated entry -- never get banned (it would clutter up the blacklist too much), and it's usually not certain what other account belongs to the same player.
Seems legit.
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#32 2012-09-12 17:42:32
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
desmo_89 wrote:
xymph wrote:
I don't see what the only entry on a track with 19 CPs says about a player (with no indication of cheating among his other records) in comparison to another track (not on TMX) with only 5 CPs. And I don't have time to watch a long video.
Don't u have time to see a couple of mins of that vids? It's one of the most difficult track ever done which the records are >1h (in the best cases). How can 11min be done? They are the same track where other cps are added to let players finish that map "easyer".
There are no other records on the "19 CP version" so there's nothing to compare with. If the CPs were added to the "5 CP version" to make it easier, why is everyone playing the latter, and finishing in one to several minutes? This situation still doesn't make sense to me.
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#33 2012-09-12 17:59:41
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
h_ulk wrote:
Found a new cheater
[...]
login:yessoon
Obviously he cheats after last cp.
You forgot rules 1 and 2.
But I agree it's a cheater (sometimes in other sectors than the last one), banned and all deleted. Thanks.
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#34 2012-09-12 22:29:47
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
there is only one version of that track, and it has 18 CPS (dedimania counts the finish line as a cp, so it says 19)
at least 100 people tried to complete the track and only 3 people managed to, with respectively 6 hours and 6 minutes, 6 hours and 27 minutes, and 27 hours and 29 minutes times.
i'm the author of the track and i can confirm that an 11 minutes time is completely absurd, because, as i said, the best time so far is 6 hours and 6 minutes, which means 366 minutes, and that exceeds the dedimania max time which is 139 minutes, and that's why the 11 minutes hacked time is the only one on the dedi page.
the "5 CPs track" has nothing to do with this story, it's just a track with the same name, not made by me.
I only know for sure that the time on my track is hacked, and that's why i want it to be deleted
if you have no time to watch a video, you can at least have a look at some of the tmx comments, and you'll clearly see that 11 minutes IS an hacked time
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 18999#auto
Last edited by igntul (2012-09-12 22:38:44)
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#35 2012-09-12 23:32:24
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
igntul wrote:
there is only one version of that track, and it has 18 CPS (dedimania counts the finish line as a cp, so it says 19)
No, the dedicated server does. Dedimania merely stores what the dedi returns.
igntul wrote:
at least 100 people tried to complete the track and only 3 people managed to, with respectively 6 hours and 6 minutes, 6 hours and 27 minutes, and 27 hours and 29 minutes times.
igntul wrote:
i'm the author of the track and i can confirm that an 11 minutes time is completely absurd, because, as i said, the best time so far is 6 hours and 6 minutes, which means 366 minutes, and that exceeds the dedimania max time which is 139 minutes, and that's why the 11 minutes hacked time is the only one on the dedi page.
Ok, now I understand.
igntul wrote:
the "5 CPs track" has nothing to do with this story, it's just a track with the same name, not made by me.
Then desmo_89 shouldn't have confused the situation by referencing it.
igntul wrote:
I only know for sure that the time on my track is hacked, and that's why i want it to be deleted
if you have no time to watch a video, you can at least have a look at some of the tmx comments, and you'll clearly see that 11 minutes IS an hacked time
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 18999#auto
Ok, I skimmed over that. Entry deleted, with no further consequences, as it cannot be proven on such a track that the entry was caused by cheating, some glitch, or whatever.
Thanks for the clarification.
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#36 2012-09-13 10:37:27
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
xymph wrote:
Then desmo_89 shouldn't have confused the situation by referencing it.
sorry about it.
xymph wrote:
Ok, I skimmed over that. Entry deleted, with no further consequences, as it cannot be proven on such a track that the entry was caused by cheating, some glitch, or whatever.
Thanks for the clarification.
Thx to u.
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#39 2012-09-17 19:46:23
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
Hey xymph long time ago,
Spotted a cheater few days ago and I see its still not deleted;
Link of the tmx track: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 23161#auto
Track name: Short Fail XIII
login: ludo795 Server he cheated on: Freezone-turbo_Ver Time: 0:07.35 Mode: TA
Don't think I need you to tell that this isn't a possible time ^^
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#40 2012-09-18 00:34:43
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
e-thug wrote:
Spotted a cheater few days ago and I see its still not deleted;
Link of the tmx track: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 23161#auto
Track name: Short Fail XIII
login: ludo795 Server he cheated on: Freezone-turbo_Ver Time: 0:07.35 Mode: TA
Right, and he did one more cheated entry on the same day last year. Housekeeping performed, thanks.
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#41 2012-09-18 16:43:38
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
hey guys,
suspect record:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
login: gmyne123
tmx: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=3330553
impossible time just compare to the other dedirecs. and i am a pretty skilled driver, so i know if times are possible or not. also tried to cut that map...
trust me, i'm an engineer O_O
peace.
Last edited by slebs_raisis (2012-09-18 16:44:01)
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#42 2012-09-18 18:34:19
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
slebs_raisis wrote:
suspect record:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
login: gmyne123
tmx: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=3330553
impossible time just compare to the other dedirecs. and i am a pretty skilled driver, so i know if times are possible or not. also tried to cut that map...
Okay, and I found a handful more entries throughout his history just like that, plus a clearly cheated entry on a multi-CP track. Banned and all deleted, thanks.
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#43 2012-09-23 14:09:53
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
Login: ownybyme
Map: ge2s3Wp2zUjenrayAMtFnjRyM0m
TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … MtFnjRyM0m
The time & the first sector are impossible.
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#44 2012-09-23 18:03:42
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
shadowdash wrote:
Login: ownybyme
Map: ge2s3Wp2zUjenrayAMtFnjRyM0m
TMX: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … MtFnjRyM0m
The time & the first sector are impossible.
Right, and he had a few more cheated entries. Banned and all deleted, thanks.
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#46 2012-10-06 18:16:49
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
login : mathieu-pc
is a cheater
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#47 2012-10-06 19:51:12
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
trackmanieur wrote:
login : mathieu-pc
is a cheater
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#48 2012-10-07 18:25:59
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
Login: weareone91gb
Maps:
P0A1yVlX8DTT__Ji7dQZ2nz1eZk (http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … dQZ2nz1eZk)
4eWG4ZBltxPJHSecocyxKk0jt8c( http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … cyxKk0jt8c)
s0AKgJLgrJGoIsjPBCyznMZzufd( http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … CyznMZzufd)
Impossible sector- & times.
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#49 2012-10-07 19:45:04
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
shadowdash wrote:
Login: weareone91gb
Maps:
P0A1yVlX8DTT__Ji7dQZ2nz1eZk (http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … dQZ2nz1eZk)
4eWG4ZBltxPJHSecocyxKk0jt8c (http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … cyxKk0jt8c)
s0AKgJLgrJGoIsjPBCyznMZzufd (http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … CyznMZzufd)
Impossible sector- & times.
And UodjMQW3z3Yfr1wJ4wqfHUBne2h too. Banned and all deleted.
And 4eWG4ZBltxPJHSecocyxKk0jt8c had another cheated entry by login yoshi_yoshi765, who was also a repeat offender in the same month (2010-12), and thus now met with the same fate. Thanks for the report.
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#50 2012-10-13 00:36:32
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
first dedi: red_ace -> impossible cp-time
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#51 2012-10-13 10:20:15
Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
sick_castrator wrote:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=tgYVIC0IVZ5YHHeOmeSffLZ2Knd&Show=RECORDS
first dedi: red_ace -> impossible cp-time
Yep, and he cheated on at least 10 more tracks around that time. Banned and all deleted, thanks.
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#52 2012-10-27 23:20:43
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
First dedi: ssppre
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