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#183 2013-03-17 18:02:49

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

wildkill3r wrote:

again a guy:

How can you be sure it's not a girl? wink

wildkill3r wrote:

I think its cheated, map: RpUZcyDzooLQ6s9ZaVzuZ8C8XQa Login: yoyo_bzh

Yes, and a handful of other tracks around that same date too. Banned and all deleted, along with some "collateral damage" (another cheater, also banned now). Thanks.

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#184 2013-03-17 18:19:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Thx, and again banned on my server(s) and stats deleted big_smile

Yea maybe a girl big_smile Next time i'll write a new player big_smile

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#185 2013-03-17 19:51:48

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

And again... i6R3f_0jgfIDxnTrCZsQCBQDIHf player. kaplovh

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#186 2013-03-17 22:10:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

wildkill3r wrote:

And again... i6R3f_0jgfIDxnTrCZsQCBQDIHf player. kaplovh

No, not again, just a good player (who has occasionally helped analyse suspect records).

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#187 2013-03-18 19:28:32

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Okey then I'm sorry ;-)

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#188 2013-03-19 14:10:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Because a 0.05-0.10sec time faster than 2 dedi on 10 sec track is 100% hack.  Typical amateur player opinion. ^^

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#189 2013-03-19 18:25:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I think that I'm not a amateur player but ok ;-)

At this JVTRG3oonQCp3IXSBxuYs9WhREl I cheacked the sectortimes, this first dedi I think is not normal.

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#190 2013-03-19 19:54:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

wildkill3r wrote:

At this JVTRG3oonQCp3IXSBxuYs9WhREl I cheacked the sectortimes, this first dedi I think is not normal.

Same player had half a dozen more subtly-cheated entries like that. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#191 2013-03-19 19:56:50

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Because a 0.05-0.10sec time faster than 2 dedi on 10 sec track is 100% hack.  Typical amateur player opinion. ^^

Please re-read the rules of this topic, especially 5 and 6.

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#192 2013-03-20 13:51:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

9HH0QXKyFL0pGPAwsLyDqp9DmK7   please explain the first cp, becaus this is just ridicolous....

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#193 2013-03-20 17:25:06

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

9HH0QXKyFL0pGPAwsLyDqp9DmK7   please explain the first cp,

We've been through a discussion of corsakoff_live's records twice already. I have no interest in re-opening it unless you come up with something significantly more interesting and relevant than a track which doesn't have its first CP until 25+ seconds out of the gate. roll

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#194 2013-03-20 18:03:21

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

radovan_odjebani wrote:

9HH0QXKyFL0pGPAwsLyDqp9DmK7   please explain the first cp,

We've been through a discussion of corsakoff_live's records twice already. I have no interest in re-opening it unless you come up with something significantly more interesting and relevant than a track which doesn't have its first CP until 25+ seconds out of the gate. roll

Seriously... 0.3sec better cp is nothing out of the obvious. On a map that peoplee who are fucking crazy can't even get that cp this has to be weird...
55%of all his dedis are TOP3 which is very weird imo because only the very best players have that kind of ratio...
55 first dedis in 10 days!!
Wins+Draw+Lose<Dedi count And as many said those dedis by 0.01 0.02... And he was excaused because of changing windows and ''being'' nice...  if he was being nice he would perhaps post some replays of recent dedis on tmx which I assume  won't happen.I can act nice too just to not get banned from dedimania... smile

Hope you read it all and think about it 10 times, becaus this guy is REALLY strange. IMO ban first after he shows some fair replays that are valid unban and I apologise personally... Because it ain't so hard posting on tmx, whenever I get a suspicious cp-time I post, and so should he smile

+ he came on our local server as NCT Luke as braid65 said and introduced himself as BOSS(the old cheater), told us all to fuckoff because he wil steal all dedis again and vanished smile I know at least 5 people who can back up this last part

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#195 2013-03-20 22:49:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

f33IhJx5kdadG7uCzl5ylInGfbi tmx
ruben13__1
I was there when he did the time. It did not validate. 3.05s to the cp is ridiculous. Looked through his recs but I am unsure if he has any other cheated ones.
The past couple of days I have seen a similar cheater with login ruben13__2. Maybe he realized it was not so smart cheating with his first account which is united, so he created a second account. Way more cheated times there though but I guess that will be detected. But k96K5vzVJVPDuNcbbCDyyURJRT3 has a cheated time over two days old.

QFjgKcW1KgmKE0niPOzTFCCtRHe
belgian_docker
Impossible time on this classic old MC track. Only one rec from the player.

avjkUBfPRCLdHio2WE8S6bAS6uk
bannnalec29
The time is probably possible, but the nick "COUCOU JE SUIS UN CHEATER" caught my eye. Only a single rec from the player. I also saw another login (hip_hop_bann) with the same nick. Also only has a single (bad) rec so I doub't it is cheated. It was just the nicks that made me think these players probably have or will cheat.

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#196 2013-03-21 20:20:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Your Dedi links ended in RECORD, but the correct links end in RECORDS, per below.

skaned wrote:

f33IhJx5kdadG7uCzl5ylInGfbi tmx
ruben13__1
I was there when he did the time. It did not validate. 3.05s to the cp is ridiculous. Looked through his recs but I am unsure if he has any other cheated ones.
The past couple of days I have seen a similar cheater with login ruben13__2. Maybe he realized it was not so smart cheating with his first account which is united, so he created a second account. Way more cheated times there though but I guess that will be detected. But k96K5vzVJVPDuNcbbCDyyURJRT3 has a cheated time over two days old.

ruben13__2 banned etc, ruben13__1 added to warning list.

skaned wrote:

QFjgKcW1KgmKE0niPOzTFCCtRHe
belgian_docker
Impossible time on this classic old MC track. Only one rec from the player.

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skaned wrote:

avjkUBfPRCLdHio2WE8S6bAS6uk
bannnalec29
The time is probably possible, but the nick "COUCOU JE SUIS UN CHEATER" caught my eye. Only a single rec from the player. I also saw another login (hip_hop_bann) with the same nick. Also only has a single (bad) rec so I doub't it is cheated. It was just the nicks that made me think these players probably have or will cheat.

Housekeeping performed.

Thanks for the reports.

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#197 2013-03-21 20:44:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

xymph wrote:

radovan_odjebani wrote:

9HH0QXKyFL0pGPAwsLyDqp9DmK7   please explain the first cp,

We've been through a discussion of corsakoff_live's records twice already. I have no interest in re-opening it unless you come up with something significantly more interesting and relevant than a track which doesn't have its first CP until 25+ seconds out of the gate. roll

Seriously... 0.3sec better cp is nothing out of the obvious. On a map that peoplee who are fucking crazy can't even get that cp this has to be weird...

Maybe, maybe not. To me, it looks like a badly designed track (due to the lack of CPs) that isn't anywhere tight enough to count a 0.29s lead as significant over a 27.26 - 26.19 = 1.07s spread. There's a 0.33s spread between #2 and #4 too, after all.

radovan_odjebani wrote:

55%of all his dedis are TOP3 which is very weird imo because only the very best players have that kind of ratio...
55 first dedis in 10 days!

That doesn't prove or disprove anything. Averages don't mean exceptions are impossible.

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Because it ain't so hard posting on tmx, whenever I get a suspicious cp-time I post, and so should he)

I said that too, but in the end it's not a requirement for playing online, for anyone.
However, Slig and I have discussed updating the system to require replays (like the TM2 system already does), so once that's in place this problem will be addressed too.

radovan_odjebani wrote:

+ he came on our local server as NCT Luke as braid65 said and introduced himself as BOSS(the old cheater), told us all to fuckoff because he wil steal all dedis again and vanished smile I know at least 5 people who can back up this last part

Screenshots of the chat and of the player pop-up with the login? Otherwise, it's irrelevant.

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#198 2013-03-21 23:00:43

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Plase tell me you're joking... a random guy posts all dedeis on a server only He plays on Hexy lol or some sort, the name of server alone is just weird. How does he post all dedis on only that server he drives alone on... why has nobody seen him on other servers, that he posted a 1 dedi, that's what bothers me... Surely this must be a solid reason to assume he is not playing fair... because Classics maps ppl posting dedis for 5 years that are Wtf and a random guy can conquer them mostly....MOSTLY ^^ This is just against logic that somebody can do that... a ban from dedi would be a good move, and until he comes up with some posted replays it would stay that way, otherwise only excauses and delays...
Now he has to prove he's not a cheater and post replays, not us proving he is and you not believing that... If he's that good he can probably make another replay on most maps he has 1 dedi...

That'll be all from me. Sorry for taking your time Xymph, but I jut hate when people don't play fair.
Hope you understand that it would be better for him to post replays, and be banned until that happens, But then again, I'm not a moderator and I'm nobody to judge your moves.

I end my effort to prove corsakoff_live is a cheater, so after this I won't post about him unless I get Screenshot of hack.

Greetz Vrba

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#199 2013-03-21 23:46:40

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Plase tell me you're joking...

Sigh. roll

radovan_odjebani wrote:

I end my effort to prove...

That's the problem, you didn't prove anything, just posted a bunch of opinions and old rumors, but nothing substantial enough to re-open this case. The general principle of innocent until proven guilty applies here too.

You and infinity71 would make a fine pair: try and have private (not in this forum) discussion with him. wink
[Note: that was a joke.]

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#200 2013-03-22 07:02:19

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Xymph wrote:

Your Dedi links ended in RECORD, but the correct links end in RECORDS, per below.

It was intentional to have the links without the S in RECORDS. I just find it way easier comparing cp times when they are listed for all players in the second column from the right. As far as I can tell, the RECORDS page doesn't show everyones cp times, or can they be made visible somehow? Ok, two of the four linked tracks didn't have a cp so I guess it wasn't necessary for those tracks.

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#201 2013-03-26 22:14:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Found a bit suspicious time, might want to check it out.
Login: rvemp
Challange: S7VMjwIYVKB3qT_2oBl3CBxq0ef

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#202 2013-03-26 22:56:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Found a bit suspicious time, might want to check it out.
Login: rvemp
Challange: S7VMjwIYVKB3qT_2oBl3CBxq0ef

It's not clear from the track name which one it is, as the number is truncated in Dedimania, so I can't check it on one of those servers. Do you know the number?

Regardless of that, the sector patterns indicate it's not a track with a tight flow, but there's probably a trick or fluke involved.

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#203 2013-03-27 13:30:58

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Did investigating and no luck, I didn't find the number of the track. I have seen this record on dedimania at random and it looked a bit suspicious.. I'll try to look if I can see it online and save the track number.

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#204 2013-03-27 21:32:40

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Can you check this please: l4XypqZPP9lveILFrCM9vIV3yvi
The first rec is very long saved, but the sectms are really weird.

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#205 2013-03-27 22:03:39

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

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Can you check this please: l4XypqZPP9lveILFrCM9vIV3yvi
The first rec is very long saved, but the sectms are really weird.

You mean very old. Yes, that doesn't seem feasible; housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#206 2013-03-30 16:21:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Spotted a cheater, login: gamebot991
Hacked on no cp maps, car was jumping and boost starting...
No UID i didn't look for the track sorry.

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#207 2013-03-30 18:54:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Spotted a cheater, login: gamebot991
Hacked on no cp maps, car was jumping and boost starting...

Re-read reporting rule 1a. roll

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#208 2013-03-30 19:40:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Must have slipped my mind, my apologies.

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