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#599 2014-09-10 07:52:53

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Rank=RANK-3&Uid=7GIrSo0jv57Klp61t0phyXg8CLd&Show=RECORDS
You decide.

I'll leave it alone.

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#600 2014-09-11 00:18:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Qs_ET81ezWwKdtVO1EAZzY1ALx6
PXCY76ERx_IpCJsuRwI9yWNbSZ7

First flaming faggots now this.. an only on maps where I have 1st dedi... and don't tell me it's just my imagination because it's the 3rd map so far. But I guess the older dedis can't get restored or entry being put back on top30...

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#601 2014-09-11 07:47:40

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

Qs_ET81ezWwKdtVO1EAZzY1ALx6
PXCY76ERx_IpCJsuRwI9yWNbSZ7

First flaming faggots now this..

Thanks, housekeeping performed.

radovan_odjebani wrote:

an only on maps where I have 1st dedi... and don't tell me it's just my imagination because it's the 3rd map so far.

Ok, then I'll call it your paranoia. wink

radovan_odjebani wrote:

But I guess the older dedis can't get restored or entry being put back on top30...

It's feasible, but too much effort. Fresh playing fields for all! smile

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#602 2014-09-18 03:22:16

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: .shadowray4.

I want to tell you why he is a very suspect player.
He has a lot of invalid replays on tmx that equal his dedi records.
I know replays can be shown as invalid if they are not because of multilap or unlimiter stuff or other reason... but...

I validated his newest 20 replays on tmnf tmx and 13 of them was invalid! oO
His name on tmx is asr|Ray4

invalid replays:
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5934727
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5164283
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5973082
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6003122
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5998537
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5977484
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6013297
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5945016
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5933663
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6012760
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5913746
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5997693
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6004405

valid replays:
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5978344
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6015452
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5947982
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5947982
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5910670
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5953263
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=6013040

I dont wrote his UIDs... but you easily find them here: http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
Probably more than 50% of his replays on tmx are invalid.
If you play with him and click on validate its almost everytime invalid.
There is really something wrong with this player...

The weird thing is his replays look like: with a lot of luck maybe possible...
but since there happened stuff like that: http://www.tm-forum.com/search.php?keywords=shadowray4
I really dont think they are invalid for no reason.

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#603 2014-09-18 06:23:20

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

crooky1212 wrote:

login: .shadowray4.

I want to tell you why he is a very suspect player.
He has a lot of invalid replays on tmx that equal his dedi records.
I know replays can be shown as invalid if they are not because of multilap or unlimiter stuff or other reason... but...

I validated his newest 20 replays on tmnf tmx and 13 of them was invalid! oO
His name on tmx is asr|Ray4

invalid replays:
[url=http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx?action=trackshow&id=5934727]http://tmnforever.tm-.

first replay was enough for me xD... that fin, not even possible! 



and yes the guy in the dedis (hunter) is th asr|ray4 whatever^^

File Name:    Raymon14_Mini-Fs_%234.Replay.gbx
File Size:    27.6 KB
File Type:    GameBox
File Version:    6
File Format:    Binary
Ref Table:    Uncompressed
File Body:    Compressed
Class ID:    03093000 (ReplayRecord)
User Data:    347 bytes
Number Refs:    2
Num Ext Refs:    0
Body Size:    27.2 KB (28.1 KB uncompressed)
------------------------------------------------------------------
Chunk 1:    [03093000] (149 bytes)
Chunk 2:    [03093001] (178 bytes)

-[03093000]-------------------------------------------------------
Header Version:    7
Map UID:    mJUL7BzZYeagOHciksEyXbFGPwj
Environment:    Stadium
Map Author:    lionoux
Player Time:    18270 (0:18.270)
Player Name:    ясιђυитєя (ясιђυиॅтєя)
Player Login:    .shadowray4.

-
[03093001]-------------------------------------------------------
<header type="replay" version="TMr.7" exever="2.11.26">
<challenge uid="mJUL7BzZYeagOHciksEyXbFGPwj"/>
<times best="18270" respawns="0" stuntscore="39" validable="1"/>
</header>
==================================================================


older report:

http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 4572#p4572

tbh i find it also hard to beleive that he is always in advanteage when comes to wallcuts^^ or hitting something to flip into the fin/cp/whatever.


furthermore i have found him:

http://www.xaseco.org/metastats.php?tmf=shadowray4

Last edited by boerta87 (2014-09-18 07:23:54)

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#604 2014-09-18 20:36:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
login:
.....kaxa.....
koltedkead

Time Attack

Unreal time. Losing at each checkpoint for a few seconds but took first and second place.

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#605 2014-09-18 21:20:18

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

gray_sk wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=MKuiKfi6uAVlYzm5XA_v8TNbX_8&Show=RECORDS
login:
.....kaxa.....
koltedkead

Unreal time. Losing at each checkpoint for a few seconds but took first and second place.

Just a storage glitch - housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#606 2014-09-18 22:41:03

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

crooky1212 wrote:

login: .shadowray4.

I want to tell you why he is a very suspect player.
He has a lot of invalid replays on tmx that equal his dedi records.
I know replays can be shown as invalid if they are not because of multilap or unlimiter stuff or other reason...

I tried four TMX replays of Dedi entries that appear to have a suspicious sector pattern, and two were valid while the other two weren't: Zclke206ifuTessGNLrlV5tK_8d and uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1. But the message was Wrong Simulation, and I don't know what that means exactly. Anyone?

crooky1212 wrote:

The weird thing is his replays look like: with a lot of luck maybe possible...

Right, that makes it trickier to decide whether action is required.

Does anyone have further input pertaining to the Dedi entries (since I normally consider TMX entries only circumstantial evidence)?

crooky1212 wrote:

but since there happened stuff like that: http://www.tm-forum.com/search.php?keywords=shadowray4
I really dont think they are invalid for no reason.

I know, but the Nations account being banned, and official times being questioned, doesn't automatically mean the United account is cheating too.

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#607 2014-09-18 23:44:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

crooky1212 wrote:

login: .shadowray4.

I want to tell you why he is a very suspect player.
He has a lot of invalid replays on tmx that equal his dedi records.
I know replays can be shown as invalid if they are not because of multilap or unlimiter stuff or other reason...

I tried four TMX replays of Dedi entries that appear to have a suspicious sector pattern, and two were valid while the other two weren't: Zclke206ifuTessGNLrlV5tK_8d and uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1. But the message was Wrong Simulation, and I don't know what that means exactly. Anyone?

wrong simulation basically means changes in physics (most likely not physics but dunno how to call it xD)  as i have figured from experience.

i.e. "No friction on walls - cheats" (no speed loss) for better cutting abilities and  even more weird flips and bounces.

Never seen wrong simulation when it was driven without any tools, this i even tested myself, but that is just my observation even though i validated  many replays xDD

speak of no speed loss... uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1 this is the best candidate for it.

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#608 2014-09-19 07:31:29

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

boerta87 wrote:

xymph wrote:

crooky1212 wrote:

login: .shadowray4.

I want to tell you why he is a very suspect player.
He has a lot of invalid replays on tmx that equal his dedi records.
I know replays can be shown as invalid if they are not because of multilap or unlimiter stuff or other reason...

I tried four TMX replays of Dedi entries that appear to have a suspicious sector pattern, and two were valid while the other two weren't: Zclke206ifuTessGNLrlV5tK_8d and uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1. But the message was Wrong Simulation, and I don't know what that means exactly. Anyone?

wrong simulation basically means changes in physics (most likely not physics but dunno how to call it xD)  as i have figured from experience.

i.e. "No friction on walls - cheats" (no speed loss) for better cutting abilities and  even more weird flips and bounces.

Never seen wrong simulation when it was driven without any tools, this i even tested myself, but that is just my observation even though i validated  many replays xDD

Thanks for the explanation.

boerta87 wrote:

speak of no speed loss... uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1 this is the best candidate for it.

Which spot(s) are you talking about exactly?

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#609 2014-09-19 12:21:17

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

Thanks for the explanation.

Np.

same for no free wheeling, no dirt, no grass and what else is out there i guess


xymph wrote:

boerta87 wrote:

speak of no speed loss... uwjFEyF71mgPQEpXm5b_lndSLg1 this is the best candidate for it.

Which spot(s) are you talking about exactly?

when he hits the wall for the first time. When you turn up the sound you won't hear any loss of gas whatsoever.
I drove against that replay and and when i hit the wall like that i instantly see/hear changes in speed/engine sounds.

this is another one

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5973082

he finished with a wallbang and yet he manages to fly that far. it is a really long stretch to the fin after the bang and one would think he will loose speed at some point ... tried it aswell and even a smaller wallbang will result in a huge slowdown over that long jump

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#610 2014-09-19 13:46:00

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

.shadowray4. seems to have a very slippery car indeed. If you go to edit one of his "wrong simulation" replays and choose "Export to validate" and then try to validate that file, you will get the usual "unfinished race" message.

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#611 2014-09-19 14:16:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi, this is also about .shadowray4.

I have found a replay of him on tmx were you can CLEARLY see him cheating.

Uid: wh04LsV6N76jbYPJcjSEmuW4dSm

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=5164283

His time: 21.32

You can see him jump to the boosters, which is still uncheated, I can do that, but when he jumps on the boosters, he tries to make the jump to the loop. This is impossible, I have tried this 100s of times.

Cheat--> RIGHT BEFORE the looping he lifts his car <--Cheat

if he didn't he would have crashed.

Proof that it is possible to upload cheated replays onto tmx.

Now don't go tell me that you still don't believe he cheats...

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#612 2014-09-21 22:28:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

8kisara8 wrote:

Proof that it is possible to upload cheated replays onto tmx.

That's no surprise.

8kisara8 wrote:

Now don't go tell me that you still don't believe he cheats...

I won't. wink

Banned and all deleted. Thanks all.

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#613 2014-10-03 16:18:43

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

glXMN5vIaMQYlzUjdAXWXfaVNQ3 1,2 and 7 dedi same person... And this v3tt3l_ger_ and mic95 spammed a lot of dedis so he's top2... would be nice to erase those aswell, but only triple recs go, so it's just a suggestion to make him stop doing that.

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#614 2014-10-06 22:22:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Miczor said that his first 2 accs were banned for no reason and that is the reason why he is driving on his third now.
But ofc i cant prove anything^^

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#615 2014-10-07 15:28:43

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

That's what happens when you do random shit and don't obey the rules. ^^ 2 dedis from same person max on top30

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#616 2014-10-07 16:52:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

counterlibra wrote:

Miczor said that his first 2 accs were banned for no reason and that is the reason why he is driving on his third now.

He's mistaken, they aren't.

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#617 2014-10-07 21:59:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

He means banned by nadeo. He cheated official mode at some point, but I guess that's not your problem and you only deal with online records.

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#618 2014-10-09 18:06:04

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: alebulo
Saw this guy play yesterday and make some lousy times. The times didn't validate though so I looked at his old recs. Could only find a couple of the maps on tmx but his other 1st dedis seem very strange too.

RVeQ76uAsZ_vWDLwX9llh_c6Lze Not possible to reach the first cp in that time.

LAmURogm2zkvT2OarHjiufA_fPc

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#619 2014-10-09 21:46:02

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

skaned wrote:

login: alebulo

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#620 2014-10-15 13:02:36

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

1st dedi here seems a bit unreal.

That being said the 2nd one is a lil weird too, checked and it's his only entry, so a one-timer.

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#621 2014-10-15 17:39:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=kEMBYpcopr83FY4qQ2cMqalqZEe&Show=RECORDS

1st dedi here seems a bit unreal.

That being said the 2nd one is a lil weird too, checked and it's his only entry, so a one-timer.

Agreed, 10:48 deleted, thanks. But since the track was built with that typical major design flaw of not including a CP, I have to give 10:58 the benefit of the doubt.

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#622 2014-10-15 21:50:15

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

But he has no other entries.... it's a one timer probably. But oh well, it's your call. ^^

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#623 2014-10-20 21:29:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

e7ozunQ2F8Qygkm_SMSjdYxYCo8 1st dedi has an impossible time.

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#624 2014-10-20 22:44:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

1 dedi sector times just don't work.

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