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#1145 2016-07-30 19:41:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Oh fair enough my mistake. I'll wait a couple of days then for the scan, and post the uid track link if the rec is still there.

Thanks for the heads up and again sorry for the rushed post.

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#1146 2016-08-21 10:18:00

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

uid: 5YqpY0ne2a6APHlFo48BRuYAfR
uid: abq792L8U4XKDDaZZ4Z5HaZtGR7

login: _o_i_s_aaa_fff_aaa_fff_

only found those 2 records, seemed a little suspect to me, as i know how "more or less skilled" he is. would be nice if you could check him smile

thx in advance

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#1147 2016-08-21 11:47:28

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lorbiiiii wrote:

uid: 5YqpY0ne2a6APHlFo48BRuYAfR
uid: abq792L8U4XKDDaZZ4Z5HaZtGR7

login: _o_i_s_aaa_fff_aaa_fff_

only found those 2 records, seemed a little suspect to me, as i know how "more or less skilled" he is. would be nice if you could check him smile

Found (at least) 9 more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1148 2016-08-25 01:29:55

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login : lasca00
Map : _cXA6SQTHryN3E8Ai2ZbC_vgLVm

Impossible first CPs

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#1149 2016-08-25 09:32:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

Login : lasca00
Map : _cXA6SQTHryN3E8Ai2ZbC_vgLVm

Impossible first CPs

And three more cheated entries the following day. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1150 2016-09-08 22:41:04

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: JXZaunXJ_To5McbszXa4vMmHao3
Login: sharingan33

You just can't combine those two sectors.

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#1151 2016-09-09 10:21:19

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID: JXZaunXJ_To5McbszXa4vMmHao3
Login: sharingan33

You just can't combine those two sectors.

Many other entries by this login were easier to determine as cheated. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1152 2016-09-11 17:09:07

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yo^^

i saw a guy with login "howirace" on some maps flying earlier today, i dont remember names etc. maybe u could check him for some cheated entries or flying cheat in replays whatever
thx in advance

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#1153 2016-09-11 21:10:15

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lorbiiiii wrote:

i saw a guy with login "howirace" on some maps flying earlier today, i dont remember names etc. maybe u could check him for some cheated entries or flying cheat in replays whatever

Don't see any obviously cheated entries by that login in the past two+ months.

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#1154 2016-09-12 18:39:49

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

kk, then sorry yikes probably he didnt finish with those flying hax

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#1155 2016-09-12 22:30:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID:zYHFAcpET5nAYtBtM94CsQhZS3i
Dedi 1 impossible, his only entry.

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#1156 2016-09-13 08:36:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID:zYHFAcpET5nAYtBtM94CsQhZS3i
Dedi 1 impossible, his only entry.

Poof, thanks.

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#1157 2016-09-24 21:30:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

map uid: LnH534nWich_mFYonIxJjd6k5qb   summer shortness by tm_polska

cheating player: georgebaby (login),      Ĝ३®Ğ६【〠】(nickname)

first dedi is an impossible time

Last edited by lycanthrophy (2016-09-24 21:30:44)

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#1158 2016-09-24 22:31:45

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

lycanthrophy wrote:

map uid: LnH534nWich_mFYonIxJjd6k5qb
cheating player: georgebaby (login),      Ĝ३®Ğ६【〠】(nickname)

A long time repeat offender; banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1159 2016-09-29 14:53:00

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: sM5nlZn9t2qiZKiFcNUqiJ1XMn8
Login: kursed_k_k

It's his only topdedi and it looks unreal.

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#1160 2016-09-29 18:09:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

fish___chips wrote:

UID: sM5nlZn9t2qiZKiFcNUqiJ1XMn8
Login: kursed_k_k

It's his only topdedi and it looks unreal.

Probably yeah. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1161 2016-10-09 19:35:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login     nyrsd
NickName theBOT_v1.44
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

All Record Rank#1

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#1162 2016-10-09 19:56:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

zub.zero wrote:

Login     nyrsd
NickName theBOT_v1.44
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

All Record Rank#1

Uhm, this login has 112 #1 entries out of a total of 830, all in Rounds mode. Why would that be a problem, exactly?

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#1163 2016-10-11 22:47:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

hey brutals! howdy? tongue
hack time on the legendary Black mini #7 https://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main … 38702#auto
round mod*

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#1164 2016-10-12 02:57:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi all, i have  problem WITH this cheater.
He cheat on logins:
1. wprowadz_login
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
On this account he use my nickname.( I think he copy my nick from tm ladder)
2. lece_bo_chce
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
Here cheat too 16:03 time...
3. tartajablkowa
4. paranienormalny
I have IP this guy:
194.146.254.1327
Please block him.

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#1165 2016-10-12 10:48:41

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

hideban wrote:

Hi all, i have  problem WITH this cheater.
He cheat on logins:
1. wprowadz_login

Happened yesterday. Please re-read reporting rule 1a.

hideban wrote:

On this account he use my nickname.( I think he copy my nick from tm ladder)

That's irrelevant, nicks get copied all the time. Logins are unique, that's the only thing that matters, and whether cheating thresholds are passed.

hideban wrote:

2. lece_bo_chce
Here cheat too 16:03 time...

Was already on my warning list, now banned indeed.

hideban wrote:

3. tartajablkowa

Already on my warning list, but will only be banned if [s]he becomes a repeat offender.

hideban wrote:

4. paranienormalny

Don't see cheated entries there.

hideban wrote:

I have IP this guy:
194.146.254.1327

That IP is invalid.

hideban wrote:

Please block him.

That's not how this works. You report, I decide. Again, please re-read all reporting rules.

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#1166 2016-10-12 15:10:10

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login : willow92
UID : SZ11t5ikZTKKNYwrCr8sgYrJ5O6

Impossible cp/sector 1.

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#1167 2016-10-12 17:49:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

Login : willow92
UID : SZ11t5ikZTKKNYwrCr8sgYrJ5O6

Impossible cp/sector 1.

Poof, thanks.

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#1168 2016-10-17 14:42:32

?????irtuaL #mot
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: rundalis-2
UID: 2xAjCjZUYEfxIYUswx0YkhYL5X0
TMX Link: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 33245#auto

Impossible third sector: http://i.imgur.com/I6Ae6mT.png

The map has a cut, but after a lot of hunting, and checking all possibilities there is simply no way it can be done that fast. I confronted (http://i.imgur.com/yRTO6Gx.png) him about it, and he sent me the replay.

Replay download link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/sca7rg
When you validate it, you get the message "Could not validate! Wrong simulation"

He has been dedimania banned once before, on the account "roemerwallace"
http://www.xaseco.org/metastats.php?tmf=roemerwallace

Hopefully all of this will be sufficient.

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#1169 2016-10-17 16:21:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

nivyo wrote:

Login: rundalis-2
UID: 2xAjCjZUYEfxIYUswx0YkhYL5X0
TMX Link: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 33245#auto

Impossible third sector: http://i.imgur.com/I6Ae6mT.png

The map has a cut, but after a lot of hunting, and checking all possibilities there is simply no way it can be done that fast. I confronted (http://i.imgur.com/yRTO6Gx.png) him about it, and he sent me the replay.

Replay download link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/sca7rg
When you validate it, you get the message "Could not validate! Wrong simulation"

The invalidation is relevant, but otherwise I find rpg-type tracks generally way too loose (as in: not having tight routes from CP to CP) to base conclusions on.

nivyo wrote:

He has been dedimania banned once before, on the account "roemerwallace"
http://www.xaseco.org/metastats.php?tmf=roemerwallace

That might be grounds for scrutiny, but no condemnation prior to actually cheated entries.

nivyo wrote:

Hopefully all of this will be sufficient.

For what? smile

Well, I went looking through rundalis-2's #1 and #2 entries, and am wondering about the feasibility of these:

wggOuSQA9MOWLUNW_OHeexzFJc8 (4th sector)
BDh34BEDnNzHKIEoUelAj8SD9nm
aEj8YoijmvDaSY1xwt5bERrXfo8 (2nd sector)

Opinions?

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#1170 2016-10-17 18:39:09

?????irtuaL #mot
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I know the rules say no walls of text, but i'm going to have to make a small one here, just so I can get all my points across.

I think all of the UIDs you sent can be brought down to luck, I'm a bit unsure about the second one, but it's not very uncommon for people to have crazy sectors on short lol/lucky maps. However, the record on 2xAjCjZUYEfxIYUswx0YkhYL5X0 isn't just luck.

I get that it's hard to base conclusions on maps like this, since as you say, it's pretty "loose". But let's think about it logically. Rundalis-2 is one of the best mini rpg players in TM and he's easily capable of doing world records in a short amount of time. Proof of this is /topsums on Zorscy Mini Rpg, a server with a time limit of 12 minutes, and also where he set most of his world records. Picture: http://i.imgur.com/pt9Z2o7.png

He supposedly hunted that map 100+ hours. 100+ hours is a lot of time, and when you hunt a map for that long you don't just mindlessly repeat the same patterns over and over. You look for new techniques, new strategies, new lines, new places to gain time etc. And when we compare his replay, to my world record (uploaded on TMX) we see him losing 2 seconds before "his" cut.
(FTR, I hunted the map for about 16 hours: http://i.imgur.com/5LwUyUV.png)

Sure you can say that this was just an unlucky run, but he's not doing any of the fast techniques.
Not going through the little gap on the first jump, doing wallbang instead of drifting at Checkpoint 2, neosliding at the uphill drift afterwards, and also what's completely mind blowing to me, is at the end, after the "roofbang" , he goes for the wrong finish ??? He was about 0.10 ahead of and he went to the left finish, instead of the right. This is something that should be completely intuitive after over 100 hours of playing that map.
That does not make any sense.

Perhaps we can now deduce that he did not in fact hunt the map for "100+ hours". So why would someone lie about that? The only reason I can see would be because he wants to raise the likeliness of his cut being real, as in "looks very impossible, but after 100+ hours of attempts managed it once" When his driving clearly doesn't reflect what you could expect from one of the best mini rpg drivers after 100 hours on one map.

Now to the most problematic part about his replay, the cut.

1. Angle.
He maintains all of the speed in the landing with an angle that should seemingly guarantee a slowdown landing: http://i.imgur.com/2pBRNxV.jpg

2. Wallbang and speed afterwards.
Here's a gif of a 180 on the block, getting nearly maximum speed. https://gfycat.com/CoolUnhappyBudgie
In order to land without clipping the edge you need about 135 speed. Can you get 135 speed after a wallbang with this line? http://i.imgur.com/L8ildVr.jpg

I highly suggest you watch his replay, and then mine, or compare them. I think/hope you'll see what I mean.

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