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#1509 2020-01-10 15:32:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Uid: r06NmgCZuFihQgpcK0vr6p3ysKf
login: brunobrandimarte

cps 1-3 are from 0.5 to 1 second faster then anyone else. It's a speed type map with a full speed start and the 0.5s gap after cp1 suggests that he used a cheat boost at the beginning. It's impossible to cut since scenario objects block any other alternative way. If for absurd you can still do the cut you have to drive on grass and you'll be slower for the rest of the map, but the gap actually went up from 0.49 to 0.68 at cp2.

Another similar case is this:
Uid: OWFbkWqGtrFKWbJYnLkF7Lojmsi
TA times for cp1 are between 12.08 and 12.21 meanwhile that account has a very suspicious 11.71.

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#1510 2020-01-10 19:45:45

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

pro_94_ wrote:

Uid: r06NmgCZuFihQgpcK0vr6p3ysKf
login: brunobrandimarte

Another similar case is this:
Uid: OWFbkWqGtrFKWbJYnLkF7Lojmsi
TA times for cp1 are between 12.08 and 12.21 meanwhile that account has a very suspicious 11.71.

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1511 2020-01-15 03:50:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Uid: mKwrWMGPp4ZX8tL2vNsejn5D61g
login: utilizadorsasha

Last cp is off (+0.15 to 2nd and 3rd) and -0.04 to 2nd is quite a lot on a hunted 10sec map like this. I don't think it's possible to do that time with the cp

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#1512 2020-01-15 09:49:42

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

zaphang wrote:

Uid: mKwrWMGPp4ZX8tL2vNsejn5D61g
login: utilizadorsasha

Last cp is off (+0.15 to 2nd and 3rd) and -0.04 to 2nd is quite a lot on a hunted 10sec map like this. I don't think it's possible to do that time with the cp

And a bunch more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1513 2020-01-31 18:56:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: buracekburacek
Map UID: Btnhj_eaalP49sF1kOBMJK1GcY6
Impossible sector

GvWzGe6vcCSyUshyQBbwvyGisml
Impossible time

iLqhIlWiUuLEVUb6t2Dagq8EPB7
Definitely impossible time

91hE3gSv7IDMsSsUOwXlnwhDF3g
Impossible time too

Yny7wlLKCurwi4CIwZPD7DDpLVm
Impossible time again

Last edited by stylexdlol (2020-01-31 19:05:10)

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#1514 2020-01-31 19:51:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

stylexdlol wrote:

Login: buracekburacek
Map UID: Btnhj_eaalP49sF1kOBMJK1GcY6
Impossible sector

GvWzGe6vcCSyUshyQBbwvyGisml
Impossible time

iLqhIlWiUuLEVUb6t2Dagq8EPB7
Definitely impossible time

91hE3gSv7IDMsSsUOwXlnwhDF3g
Impossible time too

Yny7wlLKCurwi4CIwZPD7DDpLVm
Impossible time again

And several more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1515 2020-02-08 00:58:22

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: vXduacopz19pg12jrveAXpCJ3F4
Login: bob_le_moche91

0.6 Seconds behind Dedi 2 at the last Cp. No way to cut anything there, so pretty obvious hack.

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#1516 2020-02-08 21:51:10

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:feivel2412 wrote:

UID: vXduacopz19pg12jrveAXpCJ3F4
Login: bob_le_moche91

0.6 Seconds behind Dedi 2 at the last Cp. No way to cut anything there, so pretty obvious hack.

Plus another cheated entry at a later date. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1517 2020-03-18 19:50:19

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login:red_white_rosee2
Map UID:    _GFWeekeIa5WrChcKyrBoQRCX90
Impossible cps from the start: https://imgur.com/a/rilqkPj

mdmMykRLhyA5A7XaAZqYHIOA538
Same, but get speed after middle of the map

I guess possible to find something else but i findout only this because i play with him online

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#1518 2020-03-19 10:24:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

themywest wrote:

Login:red_white_rosee2
Map UID:    _GFWeekeIa5WrChcKyrBoQRCX90
Impossible cps from the start: https://imgur.com/a/rilqkPj

mdmMykRLhyA5A7XaAZqYHIOA538
Same, but get speed after middle of the map

I guess possible to find something else but i findout only this because i play with him online

Plenty more indeed. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1519 2020-03-27 17:04:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: syos.
uids: AXaZkL7XPXvWBlqqQ9SWUOcOAE9
there, he is a second ahead on cp1 like ???
RgxNllY06_08yiVZbUx8xwfGxjj
now he is a second faster than everyone else with the map being straightforward, pretty strange imo

login: justkacsa
uid: 8tLxDx_lcU9lusvdlgMNOS314Se
a second ahead on a straight forward  track

login: deadinside88
uids: GctR1_0Dr40VuvEYKouPXOrArpe,
h7YvhF9Ws4ua57m4uOkVYEkFUt4
infeasible sectors for first map, about 9 seconds of gain on second out of nowhere

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#1520 2020-03-27 20:42:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

kery__ wrote:

login: syos.
uids: AXaZkL7XPXvWBlqqQ9SWUOcOAE9
there, he is a second ahead on cp1 like ???
RgxNllY06_08yiVZbUx8xwfGxjj
now he is a second faster than everyone else with the map being straightforward, pretty strange imo

Already deleted earlier today; consequences to be determined.

kery__ wrote:

login: justkacsa
uid: 8tLxDx_lcU9lusvdlgMNOS314Se
a second ahead on a straight forward  track

Repeat offender; banned and all deleted.

kery__ wrote:

login: deadinside88
uids: GctR1_0Dr40VuvEYKouPXOrArpe,
h7YvhF9Ws4ua57m4uOkVYEkFUt4
infeasible sectors for first map, about 9 seconds of gain on second out of nowhere

Housekeeping performed.

Thanks.

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#1521 2020-03-28 21:58:14

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: shadow.wolf
UID: hRH_bgdkqmDH2uT6Ax6rskEqnxg

CPs are way off the other recs.

EDIT: nvm, most likely just cutted.

Last edited by zaphang (2020-03-28 22:05:34)

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#1522 2020-03-29 10:23:03

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

zaphang wrote:

login: shadow.wolf
UID: hRH_bgdkqmDH2uT6Ax6rskEqnxg

CPs are way off the other recs.

EDIT: nvm, most likely just cutted.

Yeah, alternate route.

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#1523 2020-04-02 14:06:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello, in hope this forum is still active here is some weird dedis I've found on TMUF league track

UId: OEdYP0BU0TTwtNBlOcxrWEJsvqd
login : dawid-dada
Mode : Rounds
Rank : 1
Description: Some friends and myself hunt'd this map for like a good amount of hours and even cut the whole map to be able to take the first dedis spots but the dedi 1 and dedi 4 and 5 are completely non-sense from what we acheived in terms on cp times.

I wanna know if they are cheated or not big_smile
Thank you for your time and awnser.
Hypnooz

Last edited by djcomixxx (2020-04-02 14:07:33)

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#1524 2020-04-02 15:20:48

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

djcomixxx wrote:

Hello, in hope this forum is still active

Given recent posts mere days before yours, there's no doubt this forums remains active, depending on cheaters and reporters of course. wink

djcomixxx wrote:

here is some weird dedis I've found on TMUF league track

UId: OEdYP0BU0TTwtNBlOcxrWEJsvqd
login : dawid-dada
Mode : Rounds
Rank : 1
Description: Some friends and myself hunt'd this map for like a good amount of hours and even cut the whole map to be able to take the first dedis spots but the dedi 1 and dedi 4 and 5 are completely non-sense from what we acheived in terms on cp times.

I wanna know if they are cheated or not

I have no idea, more entries than those three deviate from the default route, and likewise in TA. Anyone else have insights here?

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#1525 2020-04-02 17:16:14

hyp.???
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Well yeah this league map has been played by many many people and a cut have been found so yeah most of dedis are cuts but that dedi 1 is 2 second faster than everyone else and it is obvious it's not a cut it's like he basically took the normal way but gain 1 sec on each straight lines, I'm not a expert but i believe that's a speedboost ^^ not trying to sound mean big_smile

As an admin of dedimania don't you have access to his replay or something?$

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#1526 2020-04-02 19:19:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

djcomixxx wrote:

Well yeah this league map has been played by many many people and a cut have been found so yeah most of dedis are cuts but that dedi 1 is 2 second faster than everyone else and it is obvious it's not a cut it's like he basically took the normal way but gain 1 sec on each straight lines, I'm not a expert but i believe that's a speedboost ^^ not trying to sound mean

I suppose that time is very implausible indeed. Deleted, but without further consequences as there are no indications (at first glance) of actual cheating here or in his other recs.

djcomixxx wrote:

As an admin of dedimania don't you have access to his replay or something?

That exists only for TM2, wasn't possible in TMF.

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#1527 2020-04-03 08:04:28

hyp.???
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

He was inactive for the past few years but one day he connected and I managed to contact him so I ask'd him about the map and he was pretending or not, that he didn't remember anything of the map. hmm

I guess just deleting his record is enough since he's inactive, so ty ! smile

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#1528 2020-04-05 01:51:20

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

8jRXHaVhn06ybWSNbKF1cWhQUvf
lil_skies

I highly doubt that time is possible (propably a few cheated other records aswell)

also second dedi _amon_amarth_ looks suspicious, its his only dedi record afterall and then 0.03 faster

also both guys cp are completely off the other dedis which are very consistent

Last edited by yoy0 (2020-04-05 01:52:50)

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#1529 2020-04-05 10:16:15

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

8jRXHaVhn06ybWSNbKF1cWhQUvf
lil_skies

I highly doubt that time is possible (propably a few cheated other records aswell)

Plenty indeed; banned and all deleted.

yoy0 wrote:

also second dedi _amon_amarth_ looks suspicious, its his only dedi record afterall and then 0.03 faster

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1530 2020-04-11 18:00:49

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

djcomixxx wrote:

Well yeah this league map has been played by many many people and a cut have been found so yeah most of dedis are cuts but that dedi 1 is 2 second faster than everyone else and it is obvious it's not a cut it's like he basically took the normal way but gain 1 sec on each straight lines, I'm not a expert but i believe that's a speedboost ^^ not trying to sound mean

I suppose that time is very implausible indeed. Deleted, but without further consequences as there are no indications (at first glance) of actual cheating here or in his other recs.

djcomixxx wrote:

As an admin of dedimania don't you have access to his replay or something?

That exists only for TM2, wasn't possible in TMF.

UId: OEdYP0BU0TTwtNBlOcxrWEJsvqd
login : ukito, blind, radpl, gamersuniverse
Mode : Rounds
Rank : 3, 5, 8, 10

It turns out that we have played a modified version of the map with the island car which is faster, but the UID of the map did not change for some reason. Please remove our times, I'm sorry about all the trouble we caused, too!

here's my replay (46.16) if you want to see it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YFdxK … NO_f7yeMyV

Rad

Last edited by radpl (2020-04-11 18:01:16)

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#1531 2020-04-11 21:49:32

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UId: IF24RgiQXgq1_f8CN7mkU5IXSi2
login : dell2fewfsadf
Mode : TA
Rank : 1
Description: Cheating with speedboost at the end^^

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#1532 2020-04-12 09:40:17

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

e-thug wrote:

UId: IF24RgiQXgq1_f8CN7mkU5IXSi2
login : dell2fewfsadf
Mode : TA
Rank : 1
Description: Cheating with speedboost at the end^^

Driven yesterday, pls re-read reporting rule 1a.

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#1533 2020-04-12 09:48:49

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radpl wrote:

xymph wrote:

djcomixxx wrote:

Well yeah this league map has been played by many many people and a cut have been found so yeah most of dedis are cuts but that dedi 1 is 2 second faster than everyone else and it is obvious it's not a cut it's like he basically took the normal way but gain 1 sec on each straight lines, I'm not a expert but i believe that's a speedboost ^^ not trying to sound mean

I suppose that time is very implausible indeed. Deleted, but without further consequences as there are no indications (at first glance) of actual cheating here or in his other recs.

UId: OEdYP0BU0TTwtNBlOcxrWEJsvqd
login : ukito, blind, radpl, gamersuniverse
Mode : Rounds
Rank : 3, 5, 8, 10

It turns out that we have played a modified version of the map with the island car which is faster, but the UID of the map did not change for some reason. Please remove our times, I'm sorry about all the trouble we caused, too!

here's my replay (46.16) if you want to see it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YFdxK … NO_f7yeMyV
Rad

Thanks for the explanation. But there are 7 rounds (1,2,3,5,7,12,16) and 7 TA (1,2,5,6,10,17,26) entries for that track with the non-standard sector pattern. I could delete them all but as long as the mix track is in circulation on one or more servers, more such entries will return. So we'll just have to accept that those record lists will remain a mess.

Unless you could guarantee that it was played on only one server and has now been deleted there?

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#1534 2020-04-12 20:12:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

@Xymph: I can't guarantee that since it wasn't my server and I haven't been the one modifying the track, though I have never seen any league maps with switched cars being played elsewhere. If I had to guess, it's been played on one of the polish servers and somebody has been messing with TMInfinity/TMUnlimiter to switch those cars and most likely those tracks haven't gone out elsewhere.

I'd say you can safely delete all the records from the track that were driven on that exact date (2011-01-10) and the rest should be fine. Like djcomixxx mentioned, the track has a legal shortcut as well, so the times that do not match the default way cp times but are somehow "weird" should be just driven using shortcuts. At least those you mentioned are.

You can use the TMX times for comparision: https://united.tm-exchange.com/main.asp … 12518#auto, neko's and hyp's top1 and top2 are driven with a shortcut (same times that were recorded in dedimania), and some of the 46s or the slower times have been driven without a shortcut.

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