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#131 2013-01-13 17:24:29

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

infinity71 wrote:

Ich halte diese Zeiten für sehr sehr unglaubwürdig :

UID: RtJqgsQ6j5o5c3xxVKnSRUrvFRc
UID: cfxs8sUanvCT3k_lVKACkejwmoe
UID: ildeJzDU11p9eFU1RUoZedYpKAf
UID: KcsG7NDk61QGKyzNzkNL0pZg1T6 strange 2.cp
UID: 82Abmghi_fJyCjyWziHmUK4Uyp4

was denkst du Xymph ?

I think all those tracks are useless to prove anything either way.

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#132 2013-01-13 17:45:24

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

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#133 2013-01-15 20:05:43

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: orimarco
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS -> impossible sector --> imposs time
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS -> seems like its not possible

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#134 2013-01-18 23:09:40

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login: ergys99
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … CxT7PipoM0
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
PS: If you like, update my name as well? tongue

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#135 2013-01-19 09:45:38

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

sick_castrator wrote:

Login: ergys99

Those happened yesterday. Please remember reporting rule #1. roll

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#136 2013-01-19 09:47:15

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Ups, sorry, didnt watch the date.
Thought on such an old map there will be no more new recs tongue
Thanks for name-update wink

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#137 2013-01-20 20:23:29

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Top1 (rocky1803) and Top2 (dyland0404) times look too fast compared to 3-30 can you have a look? No-CP it could be misplaced entries.
btw the server-login where they were driven is displayed as " missing:16717 " not sure what that's supposed to mean ^^

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#138 2013-01-20 20:54:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi, i want to report a cheater:

1. UId of  a map: 6Xtjl6rVNsKaTcPonFfN
2. Login of a player who cheated: crockslock
3. Description of cheating: He cheated on mini RPG server. He made an impossible time on reported map, so i decided to spectate him. I saw his car literally "flying" over a map. So i blacklisted him and came here to report him. He is about 10 secs faster then first dedi guy.
4. -
5. TMX link: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=3741866

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#139 2013-01-20 22:14:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

st3v30 wrote:

1. UId of  a map: 6Xtjl6rVNsKaTcPonFfN

No, it's 6Xtjl6rVNsKaTcPonFfN_Vjdto3

st3v30 wrote:

2. Login of a player who cheated: crockslock

That login was already banned on Jan 15.  Next time check that a record was actually stored on the TMStats site before reporting. wink

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#140 2013-01-20 22:30:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

enryx13 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=s_zFqpnertZnlBM1UZS1P_4Vkif&Show=RECORDS

Top1 (rocky1803) and Top2 (dyland0404) times look too fast compared to 3-30 can you have a look? No-CP it could be misplaced entries.

It was rocky1803's only record, and probably cheated or a glitch - deleted.
There are no suspect entries among dyland0404's records (as far as I checked), so I'll give that one the benefit of the doubt.

enryx13 wrote:

btw the server-login where they were driven is displayed as " missing:16717 " not sure what that's supposed to mean

For unknown reasons, a number of entries in the server table of the Dedimania database were lost last Summer, and Slig recreated them with that "login".

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#141 2013-01-21 21:42:08

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Are the first records cheat or luck?
Login: laurensjes
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

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#142 2013-01-22 20:15:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tosh686 wrote:

Are the first records cheat or luck?
Login: laurensjes
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

I reckon that's cheated - even if the penultimate sector (0.4s faster than average) was luck, the last one (another 0.45s) couldn't be, as there's no way to gain that much speed on such a small distance.

tosh686 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=TjFEj3JGGeIJW_T8sgd6t7iD3Ad&Show=RECORDS

Don't know about that one - but it's deleted anyway as part of the housekeeping for the above.
Thanks for the report.

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#143 2013-01-22 22:48:02

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Uid = rlwsKCTSNNMq_9SptRAMwuYRmUe

Top1 by " nonowalloux " not possible
Weird map but in 12 sec you are in the middle of last drop... Just not possible to finish

P.s.
Something weird about this map in dedi tmstats page
lots of records are not shown at all
dunno if it's just for me, here a screenshot Clicky
Easy to see some ranks are missing oO

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#144 2013-01-23 00:15:51

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I have the same error wink

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#145 2013-01-23 18:53:25

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

enryx13 wrote:

Uid = rlwsKCTSNNMq_9SptRAMwuYRmUe

Top1 by " nonowalloux " not possible
Weird map but in 12 sec you are in the middle of last drop... Just not possible to finish

I suppose not, but his other entry that same day was very clearly cheated. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

enryx13 wrote:

Something weird about this map in dedi tmstats page
lots of records are not shown at all
dunno if it's just for me, here a screenshot Clicky
Easy to see some ranks are missing oO

That happens when the RGame filter is set to TMU. After setting it back to All one should see all recs... except that the page caching may keep showing the subset for a while. That's something for Slig to comment on, if he so chooses.

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#146 2013-01-25 01:21:59

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

First rec one this one: http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

The second sector may be somehow possible, but third and forth are way to fast.

Edit: But I seen on a simular track times which are to good for my taste, but by players from which I know the dont cheat... maybe here is a way to which I dont see...

Last edited by bode_leon (2013-01-25 19:05:14)

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#147 2013-01-25 22:44:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

bode_leon wrote:

First rec one this one: http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

The second sector may be somehow possible, but third and forth are way to fast.

This track is way too bad to bother investigating, and there's no indication that the login cheated on this or other tracks.

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#148 2013-01-27 21:28:32

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: boomerwos
Suspect records: ALL!
Examples: Knights Cup maps. He drove in a week like 62 WR's on nolifed maps and always with strange cp's. On this map (UD:kRXnzJBvNpa1otizksPSSbMG46k) he has -40 on 1st cp on all the other dedi recs and cut is not poss. You can check all other WR's by him. Either he has extreme bad or good 1st sectors.
Please check this and ban him...
Here a screen without valid time...
http://leg-trackmania.de/mypics/TmForev … -09-86.bmp

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#149 2013-01-27 23:11:51

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

keny__d wrote:

login: boomerwos
Suspect records: ALL!

Yep, banned and all deleted, thanks for the report.

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#150 2013-02-11 16:02:54

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: losi1

cheater spoted on several stadium map

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#151 2013-02-11 17:13:38

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

trackmanieur wrote:

login: losi1

cheater spoted on several stadium map

Happened this night, and already dealt with this morning. See reporting rules #1a/1b. roll

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#152 2013-02-26 03:20:31

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: corsakoff_live

map:
UID:XB2ES4prG6R9ZGAr5RciSKsJbRb
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 61664#auto


at first it does not look unusal and i am not saying the time is not possible.

I tried it a few times.
His first cp is 4.48 and if you drive so close to the 1.cp you do not have a lot of speed for the jump, therefore his second sector is very fast . I checked out the other dedimania records and it proved that my thinking was right. Some drivers with a similar 1.cp (4.49-4.51)have 6.19+ in that sector( he got 6,11). With that cp you are not able to get a 14.6x cause of the low speed you have due to the close start.

Checked and still checking a lot of his records and most of them are useless to report cause those maps do not have any cps, so i am reporting everyone which has the smallest suspicious/weird sector in it(just saying that cause i know it is not a big evidence but it is clearly one). He is keep getting frist dedimania records each day (about 10 p. day, beating them by 0.01-0.05 mostly) and since new year he "drove" 302 of them. I understand if you saying that those maps all lucky ones, cause most of them are, but not even the really good players placing so many first dedimania records in 2 month.

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#153 2013-02-26 11:30:06

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I agree, it's time to see some more replays. corsakoff_live is now temporarily banned, along with his server training-server2.
corsakoff_live, I'll assume you (or a buddy) will read this soon. Please upload to TMX your replays for the following tracks:

http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … RciSKsJbRb
http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … JyZTTEVqjj
http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … 8Lu2VOLG_8
http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … NdYXO81Fxf
http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … 33tkkH6k4f
http://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php?uid … n9aWRG3I_d

The bans will be lifted when the replays look okay. Thanks.

moron12 wrote:

login: corsakoff_live

map:
UID:XB2ES4prG6R9ZGAr5RciSKsJbRb
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 61664#auto

at first it does not look unusal and i am not saying the time is not possible.

I tried it a few times.
His first cp is 4.48 and if you drive so close to the 1.cp you do not have a lot of speed for the jump, therefore his second sector is very fast . I checked out the other dedimania records and it proved that my thinking was right. Some drivers with a similar 1.cp (4.49-4.51)have 6.19+ in that sector( he got 6,11). With that cp you are not able to get a 14.6x cause of the low speed you have due to the close start.

Checked and still checking a lot of his records and most of them are useless to report cause those maps do not have any cps, so i am reporting everyone which has the smallest suspicious/weird sector in it(just saying that cause i know it is not a big evidence but it is clearly one). He is keep getting frist dedimania records each day (about 10 p. day, beating them by 0.01-0.05 mostly) and since new year he "drove" 302 of them. I understand if you saying that those maps all lucky ones, cause most of them are, but not even the really good players placing so many first dedimania records in 2 month.

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#154 2013-02-26 12:09:00

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#155 2013-02-26 13:42:27

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

moron12 wrote:

i would also add a few to the list if you don't mind Xymph.  if you do mind delete it

nations or no TMX:

That's precisely the reason I didn't ask for these three.

moron12 wrote:

at least those pls

We'll see, that depends on the outcome of my initial list.

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#156 2013-02-26 16:14:29

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Tag zusammen^^
Ich beobachte gerne diesen Forum wink Es ist immer wieder lustig wenn sich Fahrer aufregen, wenn einer besser ist, als sie selbst wink Vorab weg ich will niemanden in Schutz nehmen aber ich finde es doch sehr merkwürdig das sich moron12 so aufregt! Er behauptet niemand fährt soviele Dedis wie corsakoff_live an einem Tag.
Login: Demis
Er fährt jeden tag über 1. neue Dedis. Also nichts ungewöhnliches.
Moron12 ist auch ein "Anfänger" wenn man seine ranking sieht wink Er hat über 60 neue 1. Dedis von corsakoff_live unterboten. 40 davon ohne CP. Und das in 2 Monaten wink Darüber regt sich seltsamerweiser keiner auf!! Also sind doch die recs von corsakoff-live nichts besonderes. Jetzt postet er mal eine map wo er nicht den 1. dedi fahren kann. Sorry aber das ist mehr als suspekt. Und all seine recs von Moron12 sind auch auf Privaten Server mit Passwort gefahren wink
Login: moron12
UID: AqVq7caGdXOsgmOvjXfCdjoosXl
UID: KcsG7NDk61QGKyzNzkNL0pZg1T6
UID: HqjRA_RIRGdPDLQgqlk8CA_ST8j
UID: RjQTOjVgqPmrqwtlowEDjn0r6M7
UID: Rs7LuzBfq_i_qga9A1XRFzwkBv6
UID: KJ78nxIaYwQ4zb5mME4NUT0ky26     Time: 13.42-13.46. Hier gehen auch 13.34.? wenn ja, sind alle maps immer besser zu fahren;). Weil er regt sich ja auf das corsakoff_live bei vielen Maps  0.01-0.03 schneller ist wink
UID: AqVq7caGdXOsgmOvjXfCdjoosXl   Diese Map ist von Style her wie die UID:XB2ES4prG6R9ZGAr5RciSKsJbRb
also warum soll diese Zeit von corsakoff_live unmöglich sein??

Aber wenn Moron12 alle Replays zeigt sieht man doch das es immer besser und schneller geht wink

Ein anderes Beispiel:



boerta87 wrote:

i i know that^^ but he got plenty of recs where he got always  0,01 better that the thing^^ and this are always maps without cps -.- 

hmm http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 36260#auto

u deleted this frist rec of loft-room?? that was for example a hard dedi to break and he got ,95

Xxmph wrote: Yes, the normal procedure for one cheated entry is to delete about two dozen more as initial punishment.
The .96 replay on TMX by rus_mischa looks very tight but I can't tell whether it's impossible to shave 0.01 off of it. So that gets the benefit of the doubt.
http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 36260#auto
Angeblich gehen KEINE 16.95 und du hast damals die recs von loft-room alle gelöscht^^ jetzt gehen sogar 16.94^^

Nochmals: ich will keinen in Schutz nehmen. nur ich habe das Gefühl das Moron12 einen hohen Neid-Faktor hat.

Login:  babynat
Login:  looky62 (Tag is :.исτ« Ѕιмои.)
UID: kyUlrgz4JUVYLgE02LfNQjkLsfb
1. CP zeit unmöglich !!! Max. 3.21sec 1. Cp. 2.dedi vom  dimitri5757 halte ich auch nicht möglich.....Beide recs wurden auf dem selben Server gefahren wink

So, genug^^ Xmph du machst einen sehr guten Job hier. Aber irgendwelche Leute zu bannen oder zu Speeren nur weil einige hier nicht klar kommen, wenn einige besser sind, finde ich das persönlich sehr schade.

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