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#53 2013-11-27 01:10:06
- ?©?¬?ix?glasi
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
hi xymph,
could you check this replay (dedi1) please:
uid: FOZNVgHucpwhasoPYfk3xsMj0P3
looks suspect to me.
thanks, regards, glasi
Edit by Xymph:
Hi again,
and sorry for posting in wrong thread. Of course whacked is a very good driver and not cheating.
I ment this one:
m0rphastic Ƒяѻפ Moяpнαsтiс! 1 TA 00:10.100 VR GR 40 2 2/2 LOLlo#04 Stadium 2013-07-12 17:32:26 droppie1000 11
http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=s … ow=RECORDS
greets, glasi
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#54 2013-11-27 07:32:57
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
glasi66 wrote:
could you check this replay (dedi1) please:
uid: FOZNVgHucpwhasoPYfk3xsMj0P3
looks suspect to me.
Your post is in the wrong thread, use this one for TMF reports.
Login whacked is just a very good player, as far as I can tell.
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#55 2013-11-27 18:19:20
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
glasi66 wrote:
I ment this one:
m0rphastic Ƒяѻפ Moяpнαsтiс! 1 TA 00:10.100 VR GR 40 2 2/2 LOLlo#04 Stadium 2013-07-12 17:32:26 droppie1000 11
http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=s … ow=RECORDS
Sigh... why didn't you provide those important details the first time?? In the future incomplete TM2 reports will simply be deleted.
That entry is obviously cheated, as are at least 7 others among his #1 entries. Banned and all top #30 entries deleted, thanks.
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#56 2013-11-27 21:58:21
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
and me again, hi
hope i learnt
http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=s … ow=RECORDS
dedi 10,11,14,15 have cp1,xx. no problem to do that by starting backwards, but in my eyes impossible to finish then
dedi 10 replay is like "empty", only sky to see
sufffatze2 ŁÐ.דяλвλиדᅔ 10 TA 00:11.494 VR 60 2 2/2 Short LoL --7 Stadium 2013-06-27 10:09:50 dortmund09 10
aschradde ऽсн๏ҝσρυđđιทğ 11 TA 00:11.577 60 2 2/2 Short LoL --7 Stadium 2013-06-27 10:09:50 dortmund09 11
sir-hannibal ŁÐ | Oorf.Georg 14 TA 00:12.229 60 2 2/2 Short LoL --7 Stadium 2013-06-27 10:09:50 dortmund09 14
totodemoniaque Ѕλω〤тσнтσ 15 TA 00:12.836 80 2 2/2 Short LoL --7 Stadium 2013-11-16 18:36:46 froglol 15
map is on the froglol server if you like to test
tx, regards glasi
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#57 2013-11-28 18:11:04
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
glasi66 wrote:
http://www.dedimania.com/tm2stats/?do=stat&Envir=Stadium&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&UId=s6WWeqGnR3JIqYPxJKBmcxHj2Q&Show=RECORDS
dedi 10,11,14,15 have cp1,xx. no problem to do that by starting backwards, but in my eyes impossible to finish then
Not #15 (now #14), that started at 10.015. I have no opinion on the others, except:
Validation replay of sufffatze2 is valid, replays of the others are not available.
Validation replay of deru (previously #9) crashed MP, I deleted that entry.
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#58 2013-12-01 12:44:09
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Since the previous report, two MP logins earned a Dedimania2 ban and global blacklist entry (temporary URL):
starsteps, m0rphastic
No one/two-timers were detected.
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#59 2013-12-06 11:58:17
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
Dedi 1 here used speed hacks in the big drift on the right and maybe a bit at the end too. I know it's hard to see it but with some comparaisons that I did, his speed is obviously impossible to get.
Hopefully you can see something on the replay's data or something like that. :s
Last edited by tm2:7alvin (2013-12-06 12:36:04)
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#60 2013-12-06 21:01:13
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:7alvin wrote:
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat&Envir=Canyon&RecOrder3=REC-ASC&UId=_3I1WIUWEhoCY_RjrmXddW8EWXh&Show=RECORDS
Dedi 1 here used speed hacks in the big drift on the right and maybe a bit at the end too. I know it's hard to see it but with some comparaisons that I did, his speed is obviously impossible to get.
Hopefully you can see something on the replay's data or something like that.
Nope.
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#61 2013-12-18 22:11:56
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
cheat!!
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
1. dedi
Login: rauser57
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#63 2014-01-09 11:32:52
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Hi there,
a couple of days ago I played on a server called Scoopy Canyon. There was a player with quit impossible CPs called scaredboy. I used the in game verification button with a result of false replay, expecting finish race or something similar. I reported it in game to nadeo. A friend of mine told me that I should also post it here in the forum.
thx,
fire
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#64 2014-01-09 15:40:07
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Hi all,
You are still encouraged to report of course, but don't expect any quick answer from Xymph next days as he will be mostly unavaible few time.
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#65 2014-01-10 23:33:36
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Hi,
In the event that I organize a player gets as many vreplay with invalid error: "expecting finished race".
Is this necessarily a cheater?
I checked his vreplay with his login on http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS and vreplays are also invalid on other servers.
thank you for your reply
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#66 2014-01-11 10:30:58
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:maverick00 wrote:
In the event that I organize a player gets as many vreplay with invalid error: "expecting finished race".
Is this necessarily a cheater?
No, validation of replays depends somewhat on engine versions and block changes, and may give a false alert. This is one of the reasons I never set up an automatic nightly process to check validation replays uploaded to Dedimania2.
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#67 2014-01-11 14:29:51
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Could you tell me from his VR if that player is a cheater or not?
Knowing that this is the only player with invalid replays while all other players are valid
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#68 2014-01-11 18:34:41
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
The dedi here is cheat imo. He turns on dirt as we can on road and on road his car turns better than the normal. Thanks in advance.
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#69 2014-01-11 20:49:16
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:7alvin wrote:
http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat&Mode=M2&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&UId=wiAWMgRa7WBHyIkNZHVDLh2LHn9&Show=RECORDS
The dedi here is cheat imo. He turns on dirt as we can on road and on road his car turns better than the normal.
Agreed. Which other replays by login interdico have this too?
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#70 2014-01-11 21:08:20
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:maverick00 wrote:
Could you tell me from his VR if that player is a cheater or not?
Knowing that this is the only player with invalid replays while all other players are valid
Be specific, or I'm not bothering. UId or tm2stats links.
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#71 2014-01-11 21:48:18
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
For exemple for this map : rI0ka3ru30oS8mefngCJB9MgOr6 on TM2 stadium.
And all of his replay in the server are invalid and he is the only
(excuse me for my english)
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#72 2014-01-12 10:46:37
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:maverick00 wrote:
For exemple for this map : rI0ka3ru30oS8mefngCJB9MgOr6 on TM2 stadium.
And all of his replay in the server are invalid and he is the only
Obviously, when I just said that vreplays alone are not enough, the above entry doesn't help in any way.
You'll have to provide examples (preferably half a dozen or so, if it is to lead to a ban) for which a ghost replay is available, to check how the car behaves, such as this one.
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#73 2014-01-13 18:50:59
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/AliG/
Here are the replays that correspond to invalid validations. I am not an expert and therefore am remts to you to tell me if there is a problem. Knowing that for each replays, if faiy "validate" it says: Unable to validate incorrect simulation.
There are only 4 files validations recorded on the server, but I got 10 replays of the competition.
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#74 2014-01-14 10:35:45
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
tm2:maverick00 wrote:
http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/AliG/
Here are the replays that correspond to invalid validations. I am not an expert and therefore am remts to you to tell me if there is a problem. Knowing that for each replays, if faiy "validate" it says: Unable to validate incorrect simulation.
There are only 4 files validations recorded on the server, but I got 10 replays of the competition.
I checked the first half of the ghost replays, they look fine to me.
I don't have time to investigate TM2 cheating myself, so unless someone presents a thorough open-and-shut case that I can quickly verify, I will generally ignore further posts here.
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#75 2014-01-14 14:02:40
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Otherwise, to be more precise, this replay http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/AliG/Comparaison/ on the map sIF4QMWO9oJTvCSGRGvfhsNh5uf watch between:
2s-> 3s a more powerful racing acceleration of Alig from the start
7s-> 9s Landre is faster than Alig and yet between 9s-> 10 a more powerful racing acceleration of Alig before trumplin.
Last edited by tm2:maverick00 (2014-01-14 14:37:56)
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#76 2014-01-14 17:58:12
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
Wanting to compare with another player, this is what I found.
On this video: http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … t_dirt.mp4 a player (login bosswanted24 ) drift on the grass with the traces of drift road and the sound of drift road.
video : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Canada.mp4 drift road on grass
map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 19:13
Other maps where it reproduces :
map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 21:8
map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 39:95
map : http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS
replay : http://95.130.9.140/TM/Replays/Drif_Dir … Replay.Gbx
time to look at : 39:60
Last edited by tm2:maverick00 (2014-01-21 01:04:13)
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#77 2014-01-18 15:35:20
Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
xymph wrote:
I don't have time to investigate TM2 cheating myself, so unless someone presents a thorough open-and-shut case that I can quickly verify, I will generally ignore further posts here.
Upon further thought, I've decided to cease dealing with TM2 cheating altogether, for several reasons. Further posts in this topic will be ignored, at least by me.
Life moves on for me, and it will include (for the foreseeable future) dealing with TMF cheaters, but not TM2.
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#78 2014-01-20 14:46:06
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Re: TM2 cheaters in Dedimania
xymph wrote:
tm2:7alvin wrote:
If you compare the MX records here: http://tm.mania-exchange.com/tracks/219 … d-mini-128 you'll see that he used speedhacks or something on the long straight jumps and the 1st dedi is the same as the 1st on MX here, so obviously a cheater for me.
I see the speedboost in the MX replay, but that's not my problem. I don't see it in the Dedi #1 replay.
Compared to the Dedi #3 ghost replay, there is no dirt thrown up nor drifting sounds in the long left bend in both, that happens only in the MX replays.
So I'm not yet convinced phil13hebert is something I need to deal with in Dedimania2. Then again, the same login is a banned cheater in Dedimania1/TMF, and that could well be the same player, so feel free to report suspect entries on other tracks in Dedimania2 and I'll look again. Report only tracks for which a ghost replay by phil13hebert is available, and make those reports detailed enough.
I found 2 other replays with the same cheating's codes.
- http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS (Dirt turn on the left)
- http://dedimania.net/tm2stats/?do=stat& … ow=RECORDS (We can clearly see the cheat at the end of his run)
I also checked a lot of his watchables runs and in general the maps have no dirt part to see this cheat. I think it's enough to ban him. If not enough, I would like a delete of his 3 replays at least, it's not fair to have impossible times to beat cause of that and it disturbs people. Finally, he cheated on TMNF so I don't see why he wouldn't on TM2, cheaters are always cheaters!
I read your last post, but please, we donated to you for your great work, it's unfair to keep cheaters on your nice work!
Thanks, in advance.
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