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#677 2015-01-03 23:32:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Got proof for that assertion? [hint: them being in the same zone is not good enough]

ua.life was buddy, i using other account for running RoC and add other roc driver long time, i delete and after some month he add me with old nickname and login blacktoy_

YXBAws92pZUXmKMKQUgeexYHud8 is not on TMX so I can't get a feel for that track, but from the sector pattern only sector 7 looks fishy. Got a challenge/replay file for me?

I agree the other five are suspect.  How many of his 1160+ entries did you check besides these six?

-My replay for this track : http://dl.free.fr/mHh8ct100
-I verified this tracks because it's my server and played with him before, he play many fullspeed and me not,  at 1-2 day i spec him in fullspeed track without seeing me, i see anormal speed at sectors, he not abuse for no suspicion, i was disgust see he continued again and i decide report (long time for, because dont like report and lost time)

For YXBAws92pZUXmKMKQUgeexYHud8, only his sector 9 looks fishy there.
seNbC9KNnaRk7InbxA_48fw0wg0 is also not on TMX; challenge/replay?

Same question: how many others out of his 760+ entries did you check?

-  sector 9: oupsss i see its sector 10 (the last) can see my replay of track, in up lines
-  My replay for this track : http://dl.free.fr/nSeDBSOn7
-  Same, see only tracks on my server, if i can save replay on another serv when he play, i try.

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#678 2015-01-04 07:14:28

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

simple78 wrote:

Got proof for that assertion? [hint: them being in the same zone is not good enough]
ua.life was buddy, i using other account for running RoC and add other roc driver long time, i delete and after some month he add me with old nickname and login blacktoy_

Ehm okay?! My good mate give me the clue to look here what you write and i must say I'm dissapered from you. You compare me with ua.life yikes! Serious?! You compare 3 maps from over 760+ entries ( xymph wrote it) me with ua.life?! You only check 3 entries..abormal yes you're right..abnormal to compare me with an other login, you have more clue's and hint's for that?! When you dont have any screenshots or something, i don't post replays , because its indeed for this post from you.sry the same zone...for who you make the joke?! For you or for me?!..

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#679 2015-01-04 11:59:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

blacktoy_ wrote:

Ehm okay?! My good mate give me the clue to look here what you write and i must say I'm dissapered from you. You compare me with ua.life yikes! Serious?! You compare 3 maps from over 760+ entries ( xymph wrote it) me with ua.life?! You only check 3 entries..abormal yes you're right..abnormal to compare me with an other login, you have more clue's and hint's for that?! When you dont have any screenshots or something, i don't post replays , because its indeed for this post from you.sry the same zone...for who you make the joke?! For you or for me?!..

Not can compare many maps, lost many of time for ..
if really is good friend and lend the game at him and after change for the same nickname, ok but the practice is similar ..
Xymph is the boss of dedimania and decide of the continuation.

edit:(xymph, have log file of server with login, nickname and ip if you want but how send ? have confidencial info of serv )

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#680 2015-01-04 13:14:06

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

simple78 wrote:

edit:(xymph, have log file of server with login, nickname and ip if you want but how send ? have confidencial info of serv )

tm@gamers.org (but only as an exception for this situation - this should never be used instead of regular reporting in this topic).

Edit: blacktoy_, please upload the replay of your 46.83 entry on 1SdRBAhN15rjheRrFwbcFeti_ee to TMX.

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#681 2015-01-06 20:45:10

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I think can put replay here (tmx) : http://united.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx … id=4510957

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#682 2015-01-06 22:04:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

simple78 wrote:

xymph wrote:

Got proof for that assertion? [hint: them being in the same zone is not good enough]

ua.life was buddy, i using other account for running RoC and add other roc driver long time, i delete and after some month he add me with old nickname and login blacktoy_

Interesting.

Well, I have little time for complex investigations, but I found another couple of tracks driven by ua.life during the same few months last Spring/Summer which also had impossible sectors, for a total of 10 cheated entries. Banned and all deleted, with no redemption as he was granted that once already.

Checking on blacktoy_ when I have more time...

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#683 2015-01-07 21:35:38

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

blacktoy_, please upload the replay of your 46.83 entry on 1SdRBAhN15rjheRrFwbcFeti_ee to TMX.

I found one more suspect entry in the last four months, 9.26 on wDFt8Hqd2UehJpE3MLDz1LFBwEl seems implausible considering the gap to #2-30 which have a spread of only 0.14s.

blacktoy_, please upload your replay for that entry to TMX too. And your replays of YXBAws92pZUXmKMKQUgeexYHud8 and seNbC9KNnaRk7InbxA_48fw0wg0 would be welcome too, posted somewhere I (and others) can download them.

Use the UIdFinder to get info on each UId.

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#684 2015-01-08 01:10:50

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Just wanna add that ua.life was caught cheating in solo mode as well and has also been insulting me in public for no reason.

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#685 2015-01-11 12:29:35

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:riolu wrote:

Just wanna add that ua.life was caught cheating in solo mode as well

Already mentioned.

tm2:riolu wrote:

and has also been insulting me in public for no reason.

That's irrelevant, stick to the reporting rules. roll

blacktoy_ choose to ignore my upload requests, which is his prerogative, just as it is mine to consider five of his entries cheated, and ban the login and delete them all.

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#686 2015-01-11 18:09:45

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

tm2:riolu wrote:

and has also been insulting me in public for no reason.

Just mentioning it since he's showing the stereotypical behavior of cheaters tongue
Thanks for blacklisting.

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#687 2015-01-11 18:59:33

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
Yet again a no-Checkpoint map to deal with, so again it's a roulette if this is real or not.

''juhzk'' Has an interesting time, I would say that time is a bit too much. Mine can be improved aswell, but this wall trick isn't something you can do when you're new to TM. (It's actually a certain key sequence at start for it.) Also this looks like a relatively new account or a barely used one. Perhaps a one timer or a cheat experimental acc.

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 11563#auto If you check my replay it's allready quite fast so I don't understand the 1 dedi entry.

I'll let you decide if it's legit or no.

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#688 2015-01-11 19:27:32

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

radovan_odjebani wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Author=brainsmack&Uid=L8bPlw1edbiVzZrvG_6tSLrQGI0&Show=RECORDS
Yet again a no-Checkpoint map to deal with, so again it's a roulette if this is real or not.

''juhzk'' Has an interesting time, I would say that time is a bit too much. Mine can be improved aswell, but this wall trick isn't something you can do when you're new to TM. (It's actually a certain key sequence at start for it.) Also this looks like a relatively new account or a barely used one. Perhaps a one timer or a cheat experimental acc.

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 11563#auto If you check my replay it's allready quite fast so I don't understand the 1 dedi entry.

I'll let you decide if it's legit or no.

Poof, thanks.

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#689 2015-01-11 19:46:13

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

blacktoy_ choose to ignore my upload requests, which is his prerogative, just as it is mine to consider five of his entries cheated, and ban the login and delete them all.

Thank you for the job, i will stay more alert next time

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#690 2015-01-14 22:40:55

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

bonyy2
MQm3YKmSXH4gYMtInWMIq976O_a
Hacks after second sector.

Otherwise this guy also collected a a nice amout of other dedis not unlikely dishonestly.

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#691 2015-01-15 20:17:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

top-hole wrote:

bonyy2
MQm3YKmSXH4gYMtInWMIq976O_a
Hacks after second sector.

Not on TMX, so hard to check.

top-hole wrote:

Otherwise this guy also collected a a nice amout of other dedis not unlikely dishonestly.

Yeah, found at least 10 in this years entries alone, so I didn't even have to go back over the older ones. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#692 2015-01-16 16:53:16

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
the top2 seems a bit unreal but not so unreal to make me sure they are cheated so can you check the two logins? smile

brutix456x & ferbux

The first has a quite slow sector 1, normal sector 2 and really fast sector 3
The second has a really fast sector 2 while the other 2 ones are more or less normal

Thanx

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#693 2015-01-16 19:41:00

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

enryx13 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=yh8g1x1OoN_kM72ZyV3uVxTXrrf&Show=RECORDS
the top2 seems a bit unreal but not so unreal to make me sure they are cheated so can you check the two logins? smile

brutix456x & ferbux

The first has a quite slow sector 1, normal sector 2 and really fast sector 3

And his 8 other entries were also cheated. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

enryx13 wrote:

The second has a really fast sector 2 while the other 2 ones are more or less normal

Sector 2 (1.65) for ferbux is very average, there are multiple 1.62 entries and even one 1.59 entry. Both ferbux (now #1) and new #2 futureculture have unusually fast sectors 3 however, which I'm not sure are possible. Thoughts, anyone?

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#694 2015-01-16 21:26:48

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Tried and must say that sector is not possible. Even if you try to risk it to the max not even close.

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#695 2015-01-16 22:46:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Xymph wrote:

Sector 2 (1.65) for ferbux is very average, there are multiple 1.62 entries and even one 1.59 entry. Both ferbux (now #1) and new #2 futureculture have unusually fast sectors 3 however, which I'm not sure are possible. Thoughts, anyone?

Whoops, my bad

Honestly I don't "get" the map, whatever is to get in such map... (My pb is still far away from dedis. big_smile )
But in a map which is basically one single drift I would not expect big sector differences
Also, the last sector is more or less a straight

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#696 2015-01-16 23:12:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Thanks both, housekeeping performed.

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#697 2015-02-15 02:27:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello Everyone smile

I have come across a suspicously fast player. I did my research on him  I don't think he was mentioned before.

His login is: gabi7666666

He made all his dedis between July 2013 and September 2014.

Dunno why he slipped through the pattern, but to me some of his records seem implausibly fast.
Here are a few examples:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD

Look especially at his sector times compared to the other dedi holders.
We even tried some of those maps with good drivers on bcrveryshort and all came to the conclusion it has to be cheated.

Maybe it's not an immediate threat since he doesn't seem to use this account anymore, but it would be nice if someone could perform the usual housekeeping in near future wink

Thank You in advance!

Last edited by metalcoyote (2015-02-15 02:32:32)

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#698 2015-02-15 10:39:05

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

metalcoyote wrote:

His login is: gabi7666666

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#699 2015-02-21 14:59:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 26616#auto
ऌ TGp ऌ Toxikoman    0:15.52    TA
MikPL        0:15.65    TA
Unluckiest Person     0:15.96    TA
it is interesting. Version track added in 24-Jun-2010. dedi 1 passed in 2014. 2 in 2012, 3 in 2013. The track wasn't replaced. Means there has to be somewhere cut or all first dedi use cheat?

I can't check existence 2 finishes. As I don't know the password from the track for edditor. If to remove the first finish in edditore and to drive track, has to there will be a notification. If such notification isn't, that is 2 hidden finish.

on http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/? do=stat these characters have not many records.
Therefore they won't be able quicker to pass a top of players

I have no other reasonable explanations.
Whether it is possible to check them for use of cheat?

Last edited by maoresh (2015-02-21 15:18:41)

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#700 2015-02-21 18:07:04

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I'll give it a shot.

Top4 are definitely cheated records. The time of Scorm (bapro) is the best valid time.

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#701 2015-02-25 20:29:52

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

zjrj1NhZSE56v3_LdnoutCrluq9 1st dedi by Angela Merkel is a bit suspicious, as all politicians are. tongue

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#702 2015-02-25 20:46:45

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

zjrj1NhZSE56v3_LdnoutCrluq9 1st dedi by Angela Merkel is a bit suspicious, as all politicians are.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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